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[Get Real!]

So if we had such a poor Human Rights record in the 60s (according to Bananiot) that the TCs deserved their own territory, and now the RoC has been identified as having one of the more excellent HR profiles (whilst the TCs continue to perform in a disgusting HR manner) - then we can take this as yet more proof of who the real criminals in the prelude to this miss really were/are.

Gori ma ebines tsie essou bopse?

I meant mess! Mess! Mess!

Hic.

What a mess...

[MR-from-NG]

:shock: So nobody is shocked that Turkey ranks the worst HR abuser even though Erdogan was the recipient of the Gaddafi Human Rights award???

Also, why no positive comments from the TCs on this forum to the ROC's outstanding human rights record? Some congratulations are surely in order...

Here's a positive comment from a TC. Well done ROC, why shouldn't we have such an excellent record? This island has the potential to be paradise on earth. The question of course is can this ever become a reality. My opinion? As long as there are Piratis', Oracle's, Sotos, B25 et, etc the job becomes very difficult.

On another note, I must say there are huge changes on the forum. The dynamics have changed significantly and its changed for the better. I have seen brilliant posts from GR, Paphitis, boomerang, repulswarrier to name a few. The only way to get any normality in Cyprus is for you guys to embrace us. You cant deny the TC's are part of the DNA make up of Cyprus. We belong here and denying us this right is indeed violation of our human rights. For this record to have any meaning and for Cyprus to be a worthy recipient of such a record they have to accept and embrace us. Show us you care for us and show us you accept us as your equal you will see a great improvement between TC's and GC's.

My wish on the forum is for all decent GC's to come to our rescue when the likes of Piraits, Oracle and gang attack us with insults and tell us to F off from the island because we came uninvited back in 1571. Are they not aware that with this attitude there will never be peace and harmony? How can they be so insensitive towards us. I stayed away for a long time from the forum because I found myself constantly being pushed close to the edge by these people, some of their despicable post made me have sleepless nights. Please all GC's that have the best interest of Cyprus in heart, don't allow them to do this to us anymore.

Love you all.

[Hermes]

:shock: So nobody is shocked that Turkey ranks the worst HR abuser even though Erdogan was the recipient of the Gaddafi Human Rights award???

Also, why no positive comments from the TCs on this forum to the ROC's outstanding human rights record? Some congratulations are surely in order...

Here's a positive comment from a TC. Well done ROC, why shouldn't we have such an excellent record? This island has the potential to be paradise on earth. The question of course is can this ever become a reality. My opinion? As long as there are Piratis', Oracle's, Sotos, B25 et, etc the job becomes very difficult.

I think you're missing the point. The ROC is able to have such a positive human rights record because it treats all its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. This is enshrined in law. There is no reason to assume that TCs would be treated any differently. In fact, it's a legal requirement as part of EU membership.

The problem is why this isn't good enough for TCs that they should be asking for discriminatory laws - outside the EU acquis - to be enforced against Greek Cypriots and to become primary EU law as part of a solution? In other words, why are TCs seeking permanent derogations from EU human rights laws in Cyprus? And why should GCs accept these violations of their human rights?

[MR-from-NG]

:shock: So nobody is shocked that Turkey ranks the worst HR abuser even though Erdogan was the recipient of the Gaddafi Human Rights award???

Also, why no positive comments from the TCs on this forum to the ROC's outstanding human rights record? Some congratulations are surely in order...

Here's a positive comment from a TC. Well done ROC, why shouldn't we have such an excellent record? This island has the potential to be paradise on earth. The question of course is can this ever become a reality. My opinion? As long as there are Piratis', Oracle's, Sotos, B25 et, etc the job becomes very difficult.

I think you're missing the point. The ROC is able to have such a positive human rights record because it treats all its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. This is enshrined in law. There is no reason to assume that TCs would be treated any differently. In fact, it's a legal requirement as part of EU membership.

The problem is why this isn't good enough for TCs that they should be asking for discriminatory laws - outside the EU acquis - to be enforced against Greek Cypriots and to become primary EU law as part of a solution? In other words, why are TCs seeking permanent derogations from EU human rights laws in Cyprus? And why should GCs accept these violations of their human rights?

Hermes, its a bit more complicated than what you think. There are many outstanding issues that need to be reconciled before any progress can be made. The TC's feel their human rights have been violated since 1963, their position in government was stolen from them and most importantly while the TC's can't forget 63 the GC's cant remember it. Huge hurdles to jump yet Hermes and I wish both communities the best for the future.

[Viewpoint]

:shock: So nobody is shocked that Turkey ranks the worst HR abuser even though Erdogan was the recipient of the Gaddafi Human Rights award???

Also, why no positive comments from the TCs on this forum to the ROC's outstanding human rights record? Some congratulations are surely in order...

Here's a positive comment from a TC. Well done ROC, why shouldn't we have such an excellent record? This island has the potential to be paradise on earth. The question of course is can this ever become a reality. My opinion? As long as there are Piratis', Oracle's, Sotos, B25 et, etc the job becomes very difficult.

I think you're missing the point. The ROC is able to have such a positive human rights record because it treats all its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. This is enshrined in law. There is no reason to assume that TCs would be treated any differently. In fact, it's a legal requirement as part of EU membership.

The problem is why this isn't good enough for TCs that they should be asking for discriminatory laws - outside the EU acquis - to be enforced against Greek Cypriots and to become primary EU law as part of a solution? In other words, why are TCs seeking permanent derogations from EU human rights laws in Cyprus? And why should GCs accept these violations of their human rights?

But your track record for dealing with TCs is hardly as good, in fact its shit.

[supporttheunderdog]

Hermes, its a bit more complicated than what you think. There are many outstanding issues that need to be reconciled before any progress can be made. The TC's feel their human rights have been violated since 1963, their position in government was stolen from them and most importantly while the TC's can't forget 63 the GC's cant remember it. Huge hurdles to jump yet Hermes and I wish both communities the best for the future.

Actually they walked out - recent posts have shon the Denktash made every effort to impose barriers to working within the structures put in place during independance and he was alos seemingly a proponent of the segregation of Kirbrilisi as part of his aim to partition the Island.
( I am well aware of the nasty work of others, such as papadop, the true authour of the first eveil "A" plan, the Akritas plan - and the evil Enosis campaign)

[Get Real!]

But your track record for dealing with TCs is hardly as good, in fact its shit.

And given that the TC track record for dealing with GCs is also shit... it looks like we've got a full potty!

[boomerang]

:shock: So nobody is shocked that Turkey ranks the worst HR abuser even though Erdogan was the recipient of the Gaddafi Human Rights award???

Also, why no positive comments from the TCs on this forum to the ROC's outstanding human rights record? Some congratulations are surely in order...

Here's a positive comment from a TC. Well done ROC, why shouldn't we have such an excellent record? This island has the potential to be paradise on earth. The question of course is can this ever become a reality. My opinion? As long as there are Piratis', Oracle's, Sotos, B25 et, etc the job becomes very difficult.

I think you're missing the point. The ROC is able to have such a positive human rights record because it treats all its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. This is enshrined in law. There is no reason to assume that TCs would be treated any differently. In fact, it's a legal requirement as part of EU membership.

The problem is why this isn't good enough for TCs that they should be asking for discriminatory laws - outside the EU acquis - to be enforced against Greek Cypriots and to become primary EU law as part of a solution? In other words, why are TCs seeking permanent derogations from EU human rights laws in Cyprus? And why should GCs accept these violations of their human rights?

Hermes, its a bit more complicated than what you think. There are many outstanding issues that need to be reconciled before any progress can be made. The TC's feel their human rights have been violated since 1963, their position in government was stolen from them and most importantly while the TC's can't forget 63 the GC's cant remember it. Huge hurdles to jump yet Hermes and I wish both communities the best for the future.

those events that you described came about when double enosis was scheemed by greece and turkey...both countries screwed cypriots to the bone...if there was no interference there wouldn't be a problem today...

so both countries are held responsible for these unfortunate events that there aim was to turn cyprus into provinces....all i can say is i thank the the people that fought the coupists from our side and resisted the province shit but unfortunetely the tcs with brute means from the donkey era still exist today...and also as can be seen today and in this forum, we also have remnants of the bygona era...

drop the greek and turkish and embrase cyprus...embrase the future for all our sake...

[Hermes]

Hermes, its a bit more complicated than what you think. There are many outstanding issues that need to be reconciled before any progress can be made. The TC's feel their human rights have been violated since 1963, their position in government was stolen from them and most importantly while the TC's can't forget 63 the GC's cant remember it. Huge hurdles to jump yet Hermes and I wish both communities the best for the future.

On the basis of Cyprus's current human rights record it is one of the most democratic and just societies in Europe. In fact, on the basis of the ECHR report one can safely say that Cyprus has one of the best records of human rights today anywhere in the world. Proof that Cyprus today treats all of its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. I think that is something that all Cypriots should celebrate. I hope you are not suggesting that TCs are incapable of living in such a society today. That would be a very sad state of affairs indeed and would leave the TCs exposed and isolated from the mainstream of Europe.

[MR-from-NG]

Hermes, its a bit more complicated than what you think. There are many outstanding issues that need to be reconciled before any progress can be made. The TC's feel their human rights have been violated since 1963, their position in government was stolen from them and most importantly while the TC's can't forget 63 the GC's cant remember it. Huge hurdles to jump yet Hermes and I wish both communities the best for the future.

On the basis of Cyprus's current human rights record it is one of the most democratic and just societies in Europe. In fact, on the basis of the ECHR report one can safely say that Cyprus has one of the best records of human rights today anywhere in the world. Proof that Cyprus today treats all of its citizens on the basis of equality and respect. I think that is something that all Cypriots should celebrate. I hope you are not suggesting that TCs are incapable of living in such a society today. That would be a very sad state of affairs indeed and would leave the TCs exposed and isolated from the mainstream of Europe.

I congratulate ROC for achieving this but such a report doesn't magically erase its past atrocities. Of course this will help it in the future for a better, safer Cyprus and I look forward to that day. I'm not at all suggesting we are incapable of living in a civilised society, please don't forget one important fact here, whatever you're capable of so are we, are you not aware that our DNA make up is almost no different to yours? We are almost exactly the same people except for the language we speak.