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[Viewpoint]

What is this man on about....go TCs they gave him a hard time well done.

[boomerang]

...the fact that Cyprus is Greek can be seen all over Cyprus. All you need to do is come to Cyprus and see that people here speak Greek are Greek Orthodox and are just like all other Greeks and Greek flags are flying everywhere.

By the same token in Cyprus people also speak Turkish, Turkish flags are flying aplenty, and Islam is strongly felt!

Is Cyprus a Turkish island?

It certainly satisfies your juvenile criteria!

The above only happens illegally because of the illegal Turkish occupation But if it was legalized and we accepted it then north Cyprus would become Turkish. Isn't this what happened to Asia Minor? Or maybe because the Turkish Settlers are in Cyprus now they should be called Cypriots and not Turks?

oh let me get this straight...stop whining and accept the fact greece was the instigator of these illegalities of today...

now go and negotiate a BBF with your greek donated BB gun and come and report...chop chop...

[Get Real!]

...the fact that Cyprus is Greek can be seen all over Cyprus. All you need to do is come to Cyprus and see that people here speak Greek are Greek Orthodox and are just like all other Greeks and Greek flags are flying everywhere.

By the same token in Cyprus people also speak Turkish, Turkish flags are flying aplenty, and Islam is strongly felt!

Is Cyprus a Turkish island?

It certainly satisfies your juvenile criteria!

The above only happens illegally because of the illegal Turkish occupation But if it was legalized and we accepted it then north Cyprus would become Turkish. Isn't this what happened to Asia Minor? Or maybe because the Turkish Settlers are in Cyprus now they should be called Cypriots and not Turks?

It's not illegal for Turkish flags to fly on Cyprus unfortunately... see 1959 agreements.

Turkey certainly satisfies your foolish criteria so using your logic (or lack thereof) one could conclude that Cyprus is Turkish!

[Get Real!]

There is nothing in the above quote where she claims that Cyprus is not Greek. She just seems to have a different hypothesis on how Cyprus was Hellenized.

Incorrect! You haven't read the study.

Your assertion that Cyprus is Greek is so baseless and childish that you won’t find any academic discussing it, so don’t expect any professional to write things like… “Cyprus is Greek” or “Cyprus is not Greek”!

It was naive of you to search for something silly like that!

[Sotos]

...the fact that Cyprus is Greek can be seen all over Cyprus. All you need to do is come to Cyprus and see that people here speak Greek are Greek Orthodox and are just like all other Greeks and Greek flags are flying everywhere.

By the same token in Cyprus people also speak Turkish, Turkish flags are flying aplenty, and Islam is strongly felt!

Is Cyprus a Turkish island?

It certainly satisfies your juvenile criteria!

The above only happens illegally because of the illegal Turkish occupation But if it was legalized and we accepted it then north Cyprus would become Turkish. Isn't this what happened to Asia Minor? Or maybe because the Turkish Settlers are in Cyprus now they should be called Cypriots and not Turks?

It's not illegal for Turkish flags to fly on Cyprus unfortunately... see 1959 agreements.

Turkey certainly satisfies your foolish criteria so using your logic (or lack thereof) one could conclude that Cyprus is Turkish!

Cyprus has a Turkish minority. Is this news for you? Most people in Cyprus are Greek which is why Cyprus is Greek. There is a Greek minority in Turkey but the majority are Turks. And there is a Turkish minority in Germany but the majority are Germans. The majority is what matters.

[Get Real!]

Most people in Cyprus are Greek which is why Cyprus is Greek.

Go to bed.

[Sotos]

There is nothing in the above quote where she claims that Cyprus is not Greek. She just seems to have a different hypothesis on how Cyprus was Hellenized.

Incorrect! You haven't read the study.

Your assertion that Cyprus is Greek is so baseless and childish that you won’t find any academic discussing it, so don’t expect any professional to write things like… “Cyprus is Greek” or “Cyprus is not Greek”!

It was naive of you to search for something silly like that!

The title of her paper is the "Hellenisation of Cyprus" so I am asking to show me where she disputes that Hellenisation took place and that Cyprus is not Hellenic. What you quoted only seems to dispute the HOW Cyprus was hellenized not IF Cyprus was hellenized. And how could anybody dispute this?? If Cyprus was never hellenized then nobody here would be speaking Greek!

[Get Real!]

There is nothing in the above quote where she claims that Cyprus is not Greek. She just seems to have a different hypothesis on how Cyprus was Hellenized.

Incorrect! You haven't read the study.

Your assertion that Cyprus is Greek is so baseless and childish that you won’t find any academic discussing it, so don’t expect any professional to write things like… “Cyprus is Greek” or “Cyprus is not Greek”!

It was naive of you to search for something silly like that!

The title of her paper is the "Hellenisation of Cyprus" so I am asking to show me where she disputes that Hellenisation took place and that Cyprus is not Hellenic. What you quoted only seems to dispute the HOW Cyprus was hellenized not IF Cyprus was hellenized. And how could anybody dispute this?? If Cyprus was never hellenized then nobody here would be speaking Greek!

The original title was "CONSTRUCTING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL NARRATIVE: THE HELLENIZATION OF CYPRUS" and she later obviously decided to tone down her title for the Greek market in which she was taking her post-doctoral.

If you ever bother to read it you'll find that she explains the fallacies used to construct history in the past, the flaws of the "Hellenic Cyprus" myth, the new ways by which history is now written, and finally that Cypriot history will be rewritten in the near future to reflect all that.

[Sotos]

I read quite a bit of it and there is nothing disputing how Hellenic is Cyprus. I got bored trying to find such dispute and you can't even quote it to me. She just disputes HOW Cyprus was hellenized in the ancient times.

[GreekIslandGirl]

There is nothing in the above quote where she claims that Cyprus is not Greek. She just seems to have a different hypothesis on how Cyprus was Hellenized.

Incorrect! You haven't read the study.

Your assertion that Cyprus is Greek is so baseless and childish that you won’t find any academic discussing it, so don’t expect any professional to write things like… “Cyprus is Greek” or “Cyprus is not Greek”!

It was naive of you to search for something silly like that!

The title of her paper is the "Hellenisation of Cyprus" so I am asking to show me where she disputes that Hellenisation took place and that Cyprus is not Hellenic. What you quoted only seems to dispute the HOW Cyprus was hellenized not IF Cyprus was hellenized. And how could anybody dispute this?? If Cyprus was never hellenized then nobody here would be speaking Greek!

The original title was "CONSTRUCTING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL NARRATIVE: THE HELLENIZATION OF CYPRUS" and she later obviously decided to tone down her title for the Greek market in which she was taking her post-doctoral.

If you ever bother to read it you'll find that she explains the fallacies used to construct history in the past, the flaws of the "Hellenic Cyprus" myth, the new ways by which history is now written, and finally that Cypriot history will be rewritten in the near future to reflect all that.

We've had this discussion and from what I can gather she has ironed out the main criticisms where she contradicted herself in the draft thesis.

Sotos is correct.

The debates centre on which parts of Greece (Aegean) did the main colonisation of Cyprus and how early it happened. It does NOT provide any evidence to contradict that Hellenisation actually took place.

BTW:

Given has proposed that this climate of political unrest caused by the development of the Cypriot nationalism urged the colonial authority to consider ways of minimising the connection of the island’s early history with ancient Greece, as the Greek Cypriot intelligentsia drew upon it in order to legitimise its demands (Peristianes 1910; Zannetos 1910, p. 102-218; Given 1998, p. 3-4 and 12-15). The only possible way that this could be achieved was through the identification of an ancient autochthonous population that remained largely unaffected by more recent colonisation and immigration and would make ancient Cyprus look less Hellenic.

Leriou