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[halil]

Kudret Ozersay, special advisor of the Turkish Cypriot leader Eroğlu, has said that the Turkish Cypriot side will go to Greentree following the directions of the course drawn up by the UN Secretary-General. Ozersay claimed that the Turkish side could not do this alone and added that what they could do is to force their interlocutor to “dance with them” with the proposals they will submit, even though this interlocutor “is not very much willing to do so”.
Ozersay argued that prior to the Greentree summit both sides know what the other side could accept on specific issues and added: “This food has been cooked long enough. What should be done from now on should be to enter into a give a take in the real sense at the Greentree meeting”.
He said that after the first summit at Greentree many meetings have been held and added that during these negotiations the issues of property, the election of the federal government and the international agreements which could be made by the constituent states were discussed. He further noted that some debates were also made with UN officials on the issue of citizenship.
Ozersay argued that even though not much progress was achieved at the talks held after the first Greentree summit, the preparation which was made could constitute the grounds for a give and take at the second Greentree.
Ozersay said the fact that both sides submitted a document to the UN, which could constitute the basis for a give and take, and some other developments indicate that the procedure has come to a critical point. He recalled that before the Annan Plan the UN had also asked the sides to submit similar documents.
Noting that it is possible for the process to collapse, Ozersay alleged that Greek Cypriots leader Christofias does not want to use the word “give and take” because he sees the give and take process as a point of giving concessions.
Replying to criticism that the Turkish Cypriot side is negotiating on Turkey’s directions, Ozersay said that the Turkish Cypriots are the ones negotiating all six chapters except those of security, the international dimensions of the guarantees and the withdrawal of troops. “We need no one’s permission”...................

UN Special Advisor Alexander Downer met with Turkey’s Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu in Ankara yesterday and according to the Turkish News Agency Anadolu discussed possible outcomes of the Greentree meeting.................

The countdown for the upcoming Greentree summit which is seen as a vital turning point for the future of the Cyprus issue is continuing.
Within the framework of preparations, TRNC President Derviş Eroğlu briefed the heads of political parties with seats in the Republic’s Assembly as well as the people’s council on the latest phase reached in the Cyprus negotiations process.
The Turkish Cypriot side’s aim is to come to a permanent and comprehensive agreement and the Turkish Cypriot side is seeking an agreement within the framework of UN parameters on Cyprus, as accepted by the international community, the president said. The president stated that the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. “I can say that we will easily come to an agreement if the Greek Cypriot people and their officials act in such a manner.”

[humanist]

How can there be two democracies when is a self styled dictatorship but more importantly how can there be two democracies with one sovereign Country as was agreed upon? Am a bit confused what the Turks are suggesting

[Kikapu]

How can there be two democracies when is a self styled dictatorship but more importantly how can there be two democracies with one sovereign Country as was agreed upon? Am a bit confused what the Turks are suggesting

He is talking about the Annan Plan again, which is basically a Partition, or as Nikitas would say, what the "Turks" want is, to be "Masters in the north and Partners in the south", or same as, "Heads Turks win, Tails Cypriots lose".

[Get Real!]

...the Turkish Cypriot side will go to Greentree

What Turkish Cypriot side? You mean TURKEY.

Stop lying to your selves.

[Viewpoint]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

[Hermes]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

I think you need to look up the definiton of "democracy".

[Kikapu]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

How is that called "United Cyprus" when you have two opposing so called "democracies" in the same country. Democracy in the south under EU Principles and "Democracy" in the north under Turkey's Principles!

Can you give us an example where such thing exists.?

So basically you are proposing a partition, aren't you, and you expect the GCs to agree to this. What will they get back in return for such a venture?

[Viewpoint]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

I think you need to look up the definiton of "democracy".

Hello are you aware that we are divided?

[Hermes]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

I think you need to look up the definiton of "democracy".

Hello are you aware that we are divided?

Don't play dumb. There are not two "democracies" on the island. There is a free internationally-recognised democratic state in the south of the island and a Turkish-occupied illegal unrecognised pirate state in the north. If you believe that the illegal little craphole run by the Turkish army, gangsters and looters in the north is a "democracy" then you are a bigger fool than many of us thought.

[Get Real!]

" the simple truth that there are two communities and two separate democracies needs to be accepted. "

No, there is just ONE democracy with an illegally occupied territory pending liberation, so don’t get too comfortable there and deluded…