Legendary Fenerbahçe player Lefter dies at age 86
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-268553- ... ge-86.html
RIP!
Legendary Fenerbahçe player Lefter dies at age 86
Get Real! wrote:Toss him in the same hole as Donktosh...
Think of the savings!
kurupetos wrote:Legendary Fenerbahçe player Lefter dies at age 86
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-268553- ... ge-86.html
RIP!
Cap wrote:So this dude, with a Greek/ Anatolian babble surname( complete with stolen German umlauts in his surname) has Hellenic ancestry somehow?
supporttheunderdog wrote:The Hellenes are so named as they are according to myth the descendants of legandary King Hellene, whose children gave rise to the Aeolians, Achaean. Dorian and Ionian tribes. They are widely believed to be a warrior tribes forming a part of what became known as the Indo-European peoples (or Aryans) who originated in the Russian / Ukranian Steppes and who moved out in a series of waves reaching Greece in about 2000BC. They were probably of R1 haplogroup.
R1 Haplogroup represents a minority in Greece compared to E3 and J) suggesting a relatively small influx of invaders, but who achieved a dominant status.
They probably brought in what later became the Greek Pantheon and it was the combination of these people with the indigenous "pelasgians" (probably E3 and J Haplogroups, who had probably moved in from the fertile cresecent after the end of the last ice age) that created what became the Greeks including the Mycenaean civilisation and classical Greek Civilisation.
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