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Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:38 pm

"Malaka,Malaka"!!!!!!

Denktash came to my city,Washington DC, to speak at the National Press Club back in the early 80's, A bunch of us Greek cyps gathered outside protesting,

me and a few others went to the side of the building, with our hunch, that they would escort Denktash out a side door, Our hunch was proven correct, there was Denktash 100 feet from us being escorted into his limo..... As soon as I saw him I yelled out, "MALAKA, MALAKA", he stopped looked in my direction and waved got in his limo and sped away....true story..



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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby kurupetos » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:09 pm

boomerang wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Denk's last wish...

(google translate)
He said Rauf Denktash whispered something in Greek and when she told him not to know Greek and everything has to tell her to tell her in Turkish or English, the deceased allegedly told him the President Christofias and other Greek Cypriot leaders that''this is an independent republic, tell them.''

After this statement he said the name''''Christofias. Also referred to concerns about the talks, soil, housing etc.

Enter said, according to statements that all this should not be thinking.


http://www.philenews.com/el-gr/New-Home ... stin-kypro

you actually believe this horseshit?...its manure for the mushrooms in the north...

I would just call it entertainment... :lol: I'm sure fools like VP are bound to keep Denk's last wish... :lol:
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:27 pm

Denktash was no malakas. We (the nationalists) were the malakas, who played his game and decided to take on Britain and Turkey, almost at the same time. I mean, we should have used better tactics, take care of Britain first and then let the Turks know who the boss is.
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby kurupetos » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:39 pm

Bananiot wrote:Denktash was no malakas. We (the nationalists) were the malakas, who played his game and decided to take on Britain and Turkey, almost at the same time. I mean, we should have used better tactics, take care of Britain first and then let the Turks know who the boss is.

A posteriori, we can say many things, but what is done is done. :wink:
Now it's time to build WMD and change the balance of power. Then let the Turks know who is the boss. :wink:
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:43 pm

wrong bananiot, dektash was beaten, tmt was beaten this is a fact...the nationalists won, but that wasn't enough...in 74 we invited turkey...nothing to do with dektash...
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:54 pm

I wish I could understand you Boomerang. Okay, you reckon that Denktash lost and TMT lost but what I see in Cyprus is the majority of GC's accepting things as they are or preferring partition to the only feasible solution of BBF. This is exactly what Denktash wanted and we are about to offer this to him posthumously. Kurupettos, with a brain of the size of an underfed pea, thinks we can change the balance of power in the area and let Turkey have it. Perhaps he thinks the Israelis will do the fighting for us for this thought is stirring the sick imagination of these people who are already dreaming of entering Ankara for real. Stupidity has no limits and these days you can advertise your stupidity in the whole wide world via the internet.
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:55 pm

you are talking after the events of 74....I am talking from 68-74...dektash was irrelevant then...the coup elevated him...

if the nationalists hadn't driven the coup, today turkey wouldn't be in cyprus and eventually we would have had a unitary state...
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:47 pm

humanist wrote:the man whose hunger for power and control has led to self imposed segragation of his community ... some leader. Whens the party?


Plus the death of HIS OWN SON :roll: :roll:
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:00 pm

Bananiot wrote:I wish I could understand you Boomerang. Okay, you reckon that Denktash lost and TMT lost but what I see in Cyprus is the majority of GC's accepting things as they are or preferring partition to the only feasible solution of BBF. This is exactly what Denktash wanted and we are about to offer this to him posthumously. Kurupettos, with a brain of the size of an underfed pea, thinks we can change the balance of power in the area and let Turkey have it. Perhaps he thinks the Israelis will do the fighting for us for this thought is stirring the sick imagination of these people who are already dreaming of entering Ankara for real. Stupidity has no limits and these days you can advertise your stupidity in the whole wide world via the internet.


There is no doubt that in 1974 Denktash got one step away from what he wanted: Cyprus problem "solved" with an invasion, all been left to be some monetary compensations and recognition of 2 separate states. Ever since what he wanted went

a)One step back because of the isolation of the Kibrislis
b)another step back because of non recognition of the TrashNCan he declared in 1983
c)another step away when the Kibrislis revolted and he was forced to open the gates
d)another step away with Cyprus entering the EU in it's whole, and the occupied recognized as EU soil.

I really don't see Denktash achieving anything himself other than misery for his own people.

His best chance would be to accept BBF when Makarios proposed it to him which would then lead to some kind of extended autonomy for the Kibrislis.
You are right that today the majority of Kypreoi reject the BBF. It will turn into vast majority after the gas comes out.
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Re: Ralf Denktas 1924-2012

Postby Bananiot » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:33 pm

You are not looking at the whole picture Pyrpolyser. 1974 was just one phase of the Cyprus issue. Prior to that Denktash accepted the 13 points of Makarios with only minor concessions from our side but then it was Makarios who rejected. You see, in this plantation, the side which feels stronger is never satisfied and in the early 70's we had the TC's on the run, isolated and forgotten in the enclaves, where they were "boiling in their oil" as one prominent super patriot said at the time.
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