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[repulsewarrior]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

[Viewpoint]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

I am a Turkish Cypriot whatever you say cannot change that. You are trying to dilute ethnic origin to create uniformity therefore removing the minority and majority ideology allowing in reality the majority a clear path to do as they wish, exposing us to great danger.

[Maximus]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

I am a Turkish Cypriot whatever you say cannot change that. You are trying to dilute ethnic origin to create uniformity therefore removing the minority and majority ideology allowing in reality the majority a clear path to do as they wish, exposing us to great danger.

thats called democracy, so would you rather the south be handicapped for you to feel secure? As I said before, the only difference is a piece of paper and a gun pointed to your head which is not dependent on Turkey's troops present in Cyprus. Tyranny!

[Maximus]

Vp said
as a community we are equal partners as per our internationally recognized agreement which has your signature on it.

show me where in the ROC constitution that your people signed and walked out on, it states that the Gc and Tc are equal partners and have equal say in the running of Cyprus....when your people were given 30 percent of the congress it shows that you accepted the role of a minority......even though you were only 18 percent and now probably only 8 percent....

You are correct about the 70/30 balance but the fact that your constitution gives us veto rights makes us equal. Why do you not want to be equals? is it to get the upper hand?

No, Its to avoid the fighting. You may not recognise this but it was designed to cause friction. The constitution you are referring to was discriminating positively towards the TC's. Each TC essentially had 50% more equity in Cyprus than a GC and an equal stopping power, significantly disproportionate to their numbers. This is a form of apatheid and the fact that you want to go back there, orchestrating across a 'divide' makes the average Cypriot dumbfounded and very uncomfortable. This is one of the reasons why noone recognises the T*NC, noone recognises the mentality. This is a sincere comment. take it or leave it.

[Viewpoint]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

I am a Turkish Cypriot whatever you say cannot change that. You are trying to dilute ethnic origin to create uniformity therefore removing the minority and majority ideology allowing in reality the majority a clear path to do as they wish, exposing us to great danger.

thats called democracy, so would you rather the south be handicapped for you to feel secure? As I said before, the only difference is a piece of paper and a gun pointed to your head which is not dependent on Turkey's troops present in Cyprus. Tyranny!

This would be great if you could trust the majority but this is not possible.

[Viewpoint]

Vp said
as a community we are equal partners as per our internationally recognized agreement which has your signature on it.

show me where in the ROC constitution that your people signed and walked out on, it states that the Gc and Tc are equal partners and have equal say in the running of Cyprus....when your people were given 30 percent of the congress it shows that you accepted the role of a minority......even though you were only 18 percent and now probably only 8 percent....

You are correct about the 70/30 balance but the fact that your constitution gives us veto rights makes us equal. Why do you not want to be equals? is it to get the upper hand?

No, Its to avoid the fighting. You may not recognise this but it was designed to cause friction. The constitution you are referring to was discriminating positively towards the TC's. Each TC essentially had 50% more equity in Cyprus than a GC and an equal stopping power, significantly disproportionate to their numbers. This is a form of apatheid and the fact that you want to go back there, orchestrating across a 'divide' makes the average Cypriot dumbfounded and very uncomfortable. This is one of the reasons why noone recognises the T*NC, noone recognises the mentality. This is a sincere comment. take it or leave it.

Thats why we are looking for alternatives but without a solution the best way id to stay divided.

[Maximus]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

I am a Turkish Cypriot whatever you say cannot change that. You are trying to dilute ethnic origin to create uniformity therefore removing the minority and majority ideology allowing in reality the majority a clear path to do as they wish, exposing us to great danger.

thats called democracy, so would you rather the south be handicapped for you to feel secure? As I said before, the only difference is a piece of paper and a gun pointed to your head which is not dependent on Turkey's troops present in Cyprus. Tyranny!

This would be great if you could trust the majority but this is not possible.

so you are in fact a minority seeking artificial majority status.

[repulsewarrior]

...i don't think you are seriously looking at my posts. for so many years we have debated. vp, even if you agreed with my ideals you can still reject the plan that will be designed for the Cypriot people to vote on.

dismissing me so easily only proves that you wish to ignore any possibility that there will be anything but this state of war. if you think leaving "Greeks" and "Turks" seperated by a thin line is peace we only have to wait, because the bloody part of this truth is only one or two fanatics away.

please, when you answer by telling me what i think, at least put some thought into it. i respect your concern, but sometimes i wonder about your ability to reason. give me specifics.

[Viewpoint]

if people who believe in the Family of Man are commis as you call them, call me a commi.

if people who understand the meaning of the expression "Lest We Forget" are commis, call me a commi.

if people who see the world as vital because of its diversity, call me a commi.

...you may be Turkish, but you speak as a "Turk", you are therefore no Cypriot; be honest in that at least.

...one thing is sure, i am no "Greek", and as a Cypriot, i respect Greeks and Turks, and their right to celebrate this diversity by sustaining, as Persons, their identities.

I am a Turkish Cypriot whatever you say cannot change that. You are trying to dilute ethnic origin to create uniformity therefore removing the minority and majority ideology allowing in reality the majority a clear path to do as they wish, exposing us to great danger.

thats called democracy, so would you rather the south be handicapped for you to feel secure? As I said before, the only difference is a piece of paper and a gun pointed to your head which is not dependent on Turkey's troops present in Cyprus. Tyranny!

This would be great if you could trust the majority but this is not possible.

so you are in fact a minority seeking artificial majority status.

No we are equal partners that want our rights.

[Viewpoint]

...i don't think you are seriously looking at my posts. for so many years we have debated. vp, even if you agreed with my ideals you can still reject the plan that will be designed for the Cypriot people to vote on.

dismissing me so easily only proves that you wish to ignore any possibility that there will be anything but this state of war. if you think leaving "Greeks" and "Turks" seperated by a thin line is peace we only have to wait, because the bloody part of this truth is only one or two fanatics away.

please, when you answer by telling me what i think, at least put some thought into it. i respect your concern, but sometimes i wonder about your ability to reason. give me specifics.

I question your real motives as you wish to dilute our ethnic origins to allow the GCs the advantage how can i take you seriously?