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Re: Turkey must begin withdrawing forces from Cyprus

Postby humanist » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:11 pm

of course it's over now...... the US isn't going to tolerate Turkish interference. I feel confident that pressure will be brought onto Turkey.
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Re: Turkey must begin withdrawing forces from Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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humanist wrote:A return to the Constitution with a six month period is the nest way forward for all Cypriots. Some changes to ensure non discrimination of any individual. The withdrawl of the Turkish army can then be staged 10,000 every couple months. Right of return, negotiated return for those who chose to exchange, compensated, or other arrangements as agreed.


Does "some" changes include the removal of our veto and security guarantees?

For crying out loud are you still hopeful that you’ll ever get a chance in the RoC government like the old days? :?

You’re living in the past… it’s over! Mark my words…


OK no problem.
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Re: Turkey must begin withdrawing forces from Cyprus

Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:00 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:A return to the Constitution with a six month period is the nest way forward for all Cypriots. Some changes to ensure non discrimination of any individual. The withdrawl of the Turkish army can then be staged 10,000 every couple months. Right of return, negotiated return for those who chose to exchange, compensated, or other arrangements as agreed.


Does "some" changes include the removal of our veto and security guarantees?


DEnktash already accepted Makario's 13 points, which included the removal of a veto, but it can be giv en back with the explicit understanding to be used when there are violations of civil rights only, security guarantees by the eu only,
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Re: Turkey must begin withdrawing forces from Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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repulsewarrior wrote:...i don't think you are seriously looking at my posts. for so many years we have debated. vp, even if you agreed with my ideals you can still reject the plan that will be designed for the Cypriot people to vote on.

dismissing me so easily only proves that you wish to ignore any possibility that there will be anything but this state of war. if you think leaving "Greeks" and "Turks" seperated by a thin line is peace we only have to wait, because the bloody part of this truth is only one or two fanatics away.

please, when you answer by telling me what i think, at least put some thought into it. i respect your concern, but sometimes i wonder about your ability to reason. give me specifics.


I question your real motives as you wish to dilute our ethnic origins to allow the GCs the advantage how can i take you seriously?


...you are not being honest.

specifically, why do you question my motives. facts, i want the points that i have written dissected, to justify this fear.

you are ignoring me vp, clearly. what you avoid is dialog.

"you wish to dilute our ethnic origins", what a pitiful comment from someone who has so much more capacity than that; it is not enough. It makes you a small thinker and lazy, a failure, even as a "Turk" you do no justice to this cause, as though you can do no more than to dismiss someone with an air of superiority.

a shame, because my expectations of your abilities are much higher. and my gratititude for your insight, as i've said before, has as a result, my manifesto.



Sorry to disappoint you repulse but what you are trying to promote is just to premature, we even as individuals do not trust each other, only after establishing a strong feeling of understanding and trust you will never achieve what you wish.


...more honest and from the heart, not "dilution" as you stated originally, simple eloquent and to the point; progess, thank-you.
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Re: Turkey must begin withdrawing forces from Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:28 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:A return to the Constitution with a six month period is the nest way forward for all Cypriots. Some changes to ensure non discrimination of any individual. The withdrawl of the Turkish army can then be staged 10,000 every couple months. Right of return, negotiated return for those who chose to exchange, compensated, or other arrangements as agreed.


Does "some" changes include the removal of our veto and security guarantees?


DEnktash already accepted Makario's 13 points, which included the removal of a veto, but it can be giv en back with the explicit understanding to be used when there are violations of civil rights only, security guarantees by the eu only,


Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, have you heard that saying???
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