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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:17 am

Dont think it will openly go that far but you are right Erdogan is more inclined to favor the east to the west.
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:18 pm

Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Maximus » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:39 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.


Good idea, however it is not necessary to not make your plans known in order to give yourself time to find an alternative/replacement so you can faze out the dead weight. This is what I beleive the EU has done with great schrewdness. if I am correct, Turkey will find out the hard way without the EU having to put their point across in not so certain terms to the Turks or in a way that portrays that the EU actually cares about their attitude. its their loss.
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:06 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.

Excellent idea STUD. I wish you were the GB PM. :)
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
This is constantly repeated go back and check your own and others posts, if we are ruled by Turkey as you people claim then how can your claim be correct that we are a thorn in their side. They would never invest in the TRNC if you were right which you are not. There maybe ungrateful people in the TRNC but thats another matter alltogether.

I didn't say that the "trnc" is going to be a thorn on Turkey's side, but the EU/RoC leverages will be a thorn in Turkey's side for occupying a EU member state. This will never go away as long as Turkey occupies the north. The EU will be and is in a position to take many actions against Turkey as we speak if they wish to do so. That's called having leverage whether it is excised or not The options are always there if and when needed by the EU/RoC since the two are one and the same.


Viewpoint wrote:Many you are such a hypocrite you post like theres no tomorrow about Turkey evaporating and being ripped to shreads now you claim it will become a True Democratic country...do you read what you write or do you just post according how you got out of bed that day there is absolutely no consistency in your posts.


Of course Turkey is always going to be there. Perhaps not the Turkey as we know it today, but much smaller where the western part of Turkey will be well suited for the EU and the Eastern part will be well suited for Middle-East. In another words, New Turkey and Old Turkey (east and west parts) will boarder each other down the middle, North to South . The west part will be a True Democratic New Turkey and a EU member, and the eastern part, a Old Turkey, will be just a another undemocratic Islamic middle-eastern country. The New Turkey will be wealthy and modern, and the Old Turkey, will be less than what Turkey is today.


Viewpoint wrote:I still find it difficult to understand what leverage you can have a over a country that shows no signs of wanting to enter the EU..what has she done in the last year to illustrate this, she constantly says that forced to choose she will choose the TRNC and makes no progress in building any bridges with the GCs, to go even a step further shes has threatened to stop all meetings with the EU while the GCs have EU presidency. Add to this a bureaucratic corpse like the EU and what do you get nothing....a bag full of nothing....no leverage for the GCs, they cant even get Turkey around a table on a 121 basis, says a lot for their non existent leverage.


Read the above responses one more time!
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Maximus » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:38 pm

'Eastern Turkey' may actually become Kurdistan.

If and when this will happen though is just speculation and without a timeframe this will always be a very likely possibility.

Assad seems to think it will happen sooner, rather than later if the Turks take action and meddle in his internal affairs.
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:54 pm

Maximus wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.


Good idea, however it is not necessary to not make your plans known in order to give yourself time to find an alternative/replacement so you can faze out the dead weight. This is what I beleive the EU has done with great schrewdness. if I am correct, Turkey will find out the hard way without the EU having to put their point across in not so certain terms to the Turks or in a way that portrays that the EU actually cares about their attitude. its their loss.


You keep throwing mud which does not stick, when will the EU grow balls and tell Turkey to FO?
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.


Good idea, however it is not necessary to not make your plans known in order to give yourself time to find an alternative/replacement so you can faze out the dead weight. This is what I beleive the EU has done with great schrewdness. if I am correct, Turkey will find out the hard way without the EU having to put their point across in not so certain terms to the Turks or in a way that portrays that the EU actually cares about their attitude. its their loss.


You keep throwing mud which does not stick, when will the EU grow balls and tell Turkey to FO?


1 July 2012
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:47 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.


Good idea, however it is not necessary to not make your plans known in order to give yourself time to find an alternative/replacement so you can faze out the dead weight. This is what I beleive the EU has done with great schrewdness. if I am correct, Turkey will find out the hard way without the EU having to put their point across in not so certain terms to the Turks or in a way that portrays that the EU actually cares about their attitude. its their loss.


You keep throwing mud which does not stick, when will the EU grow balls and tell Turkey to FO?


1 July 2012

:shock: Can you also post the exact time? Up to minutes accuracy is OK. :mrgreen:
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Re: Suspending Customs Union with EU

Postby Maximus » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:54 pm

kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Persoannly I think that the EU states should go further than simply suspend the Customs union but should introduce reciprocal boycott legislation, so if any one nation choses to boycott any entities from any particular EU country, based on their buiness location, then all EU countries should automatically boycott entities from that country on similar basis, i.e. a ban on Turkish planes entering EU airspace and/or Turkish ships calling at EU ports.


Good idea, however it is not necessary to not make your plans known in order to give yourself time to find an alternative/replacement so you can faze out the dead weight. This is what I beleive the EU has done with great schrewdness. if I am correct, Turkey will find out the hard way without the EU having to put their point across in not so certain terms to the Turks or in a way that portrays that the EU actually cares about their attitude. its their loss.


You keep throwing mud which does not stick, when will the EU grow balls and tell Turkey to FO?


1 July 2012

:shock: Can you also post the exact time? Up to minutes accuracy is OK. :mrgreen:


Seriously, why even tell them? If Gul has a problem the EU can tell him that they are currently 'miserable' and that he should come back when there are better days.
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