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[Hermes]

Turkey thought she can outlast the EU's leverage as long as possible in the foolish hope that they believe that time will come where the EU will need Turkey 1000 times more than Turkey will need the EU, when Turkey will be able to dictate to the EU her terms for the EU to have the privilege of Turkey joining the EU club with no questions asked regarding Cyprus or the Kurds or the Armenians, or Human Rights violations, or no freedom of the Press and so on. Nobody said Turkey lacks imagination or dreams of grandeur delusions.

As for Turkey talking trash about choosing the TCs (parasites to Erdogan) over the EU, is ONLY because she can't have the EU. How else can she save face. In the last few months, Turkey has lost so much face with all her big talks and no action, no one can possible take Turkey seriously in what she says. Besides, Turkey wants the island of Cyprus and not the TCs. What is Turkey going to do with 70,000 TCs when she already have over 70 million Turks, specially TCs are not even religious. Just remember something, that there will always be Turkey after Erdogan and all the Neo Islamist in the Turkish Government are gone. "Time Does not Stand Still!"

Excellent points. Turkey has overplayed its hand, thinking it could force the EU into allowing its accession to proceed while formalising the partition of the island. Only the EU has refused to play Turkey's dirty little game. Turkey now understands that its EU accession is dependent on a withdrawal from Cyprus and a solution that is acceptable to the GCs. Without such a solution, Turkey risks not only its EU accession but its future economic and strategic interests as well.

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Turkey thought she can outlast the EU's leverage as long as possible in the foolish hope that they believe that time will come where the EU will need Turkey 1000 times more than Turkey will need the EU, when Turkey will be able to dictate to the EU her terms for the EU to have the privilege of Turkey joining the EU club with no questions asked regarding Cyprus or the Kurds or the Armenians, or Human Rights violations, or no freedom of the Press and so on. Nobody said Turkey lacks imagination or dreams of grandeur delusions.

As for Turkey talking trash about choosing the TCs (parasites to Erdogan) over the EU, is ONLY because she can't have the EU. How else can she save face. In the last few months, Turkey has lost so much face with all her big talks and no action, no one can possible take Turkey seriously in what she says. Besides, Turkey wants the island of Cyprus and not the TCs. What is Turkey going to do with 70,000 TCs when she already have over 70 million Turks, specially TCs are not even religious. Just remember something, that there will always be Turkey after Erdogan and all the Neo Islamist in the Turkish Government are gone. "Time Does not Stand Still!"

Excellent points. Turkey has overplayed its hand, thinking it could force the EU into allowing its accession to proceed while formalising the partition of the island. Only the EU has refused to play Turkey's dirty little game. Turkey now understands that its EU accession is dependent on a withdrawal from Cyprus and a solution that is acceptable to the GCs. Without such a solution, Turkey risks not only its EU accession but its future economic and strategic interests as well.

Hello Turkey knows full well there is no EU accession why do you think it is that she has done nothing to move forward..all she is doing is playing the appear to want entry....the EU doesnt have the balls to call her bluff and say that accession has been cancelled.

[Jerry]

Turkey thought she can outlast the EU's leverage as long as possible in the foolish hope that they believe that time will come where the EU will need Turkey 1000 times more than Turkey will need the EU, when Turkey will be able to dictate to the EU her terms for the EU to have the privilege of Turkey joining the EU club with no questions asked regarding Cyprus or the Kurds or the Armenians, or Human Rights violations, or no freedom of the Press and so on. Nobody said Turkey lacks imagination or dreams of grandeur delusions.

As for Turkey talking trash about choosing the TCs (parasites to Erdogan) over the EU, is ONLY because she can't have the EU. How else can she save face. In the last few months, Turkey has lost so much face with all her big talks and no action, no one can possible take Turkey seriously in what she says. Besides, Turkey wants the island of Cyprus and not the TCs. What is Turkey going to do with 70,000 TCs when she already have over 70 million Turks, specially TCs are not even religious. Just remember something, that there will always be Turkey after Erdogan and all the Neo Islamist in the Turkish Government are gone. "Time Does not Stand Still!"

Excellent points. Turkey has overplayed its hand, thinking it could force the EU into allowing its accession to proceed while formalising the partition of the island. Only the EU has refused to play Turkey's dirty little game. Turkey now understands that its EU accession is dependent on a withdrawal from Cyprus and a solution that is acceptable to the GCs. Without such a solution, Turkey risks not only its EU accession but its future economic and strategic interests as well.

Hello Turkey knows full well there is no EU accession why do you think it is that she has done nothing to move forward..all she is doing is playing the appear to want entry....the EU doesnt have the balls to call her bluff and say that accession has been cancelled.

VP, it's more than just accession though, if you bothered to read and understand the opening post you would see that the Turkish minister was complaining about unfair aspects of the Customs Union. The Turkish economy would nosedive if it withdrew from the CU, European investors may even seek alternative underdeveloped counties to invest in - like Greece.

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Turkey thought she can outlast the EU's leverage as long as possible in the foolish hope that they believe that time will come where the EU will need Turkey 1000 times more than Turkey will need the EU, when Turkey will be able to dictate to the EU her terms for the EU to have the privilege of Turkey joining the EU club with no questions asked regarding Cyprus or the Kurds or the Armenians, or Human Rights violations, or no freedom of the Press and so on. Nobody said Turkey lacks imagination or dreams of grandeur delusions.

As for Turkey talking trash about choosing the TCs (parasites to Erdogan) over the EU, is ONLY because she can't have the EU. How else can she save face. In the last few months, Turkey has lost so much face with all her big talks and no action, no one can possible take Turkey seriously in what she says. Besides, Turkey wants the island of Cyprus and not the TCs. What is Turkey going to do with 70,000 TCs when she already have over 70 million Turks, specially TCs are not even religious. Just remember something, that there will always be Turkey after Erdogan and all the Neo Islamist in the Turkish Government are gone. "Time Does not Stand Still!"

Excellent points. Turkey has overplayed its hand, thinking it could force the EU into allowing its accession to proceed while formalising the partition of the island. Only the EU has refused to play Turkey's dirty little game. Turkey now understands that its EU accession is dependent on a withdrawal from Cyprus and a solution that is acceptable to the GCs. Without such a solution, Turkey risks not only its EU accession but its future economic and strategic interests as well.

Hello Turkey knows full well there is no EU accession why do you think it is that she has done nothing to move forward..all she is doing is playing the appear to want entry....the EU doesnt have the balls to call her bluff and say that accession has been cancelled.

VP, it's more than just accession though, if you bothered to read and understand the opening post you would see that the Turkish minister was complaining about unfair aspects of the Customs Union. The Turkish economy would nosedive if it withdrew from the CU, European investors may even seek alternative underdeveloped counties to invest in - like Greece.

Turkey will always complain nothing new there but because the EU does not have any balls they will do nothing as usual and things will go on a per normal. If after 7 years you people still dont under stand that the EU will not sane you just as Greece didnt then you are more stupid than I thought.

[Hermes]

Turkey will always complain nothing new there but because the EU does not have any balls they will do nothing as usual and things will go on a per normal. If after 7 years you people still dont under stand that the EU will not sane you just as Greece didnt then you are more stupid than I thought.

It's taken Turkey seven years to realise that it's not getting any concessions from the EU, no recognition of the "trnc", no easing of the trade sanctions and no path to EU accession unless there's a withdrawal from Cyprus. It's not the EU's fault that the Turks are such slow learners.

[Maximus]

Turkey thought she can outlast the EU's leverage as long as possible in the foolish hope that they believe that time will come where the EU will need Turkey 1000 times more than Turkey will need the EU, when Turkey will be able to dictate to the EU her terms for the EU to have the privilege of Turkey joining the EU club with no questions asked regarding Cyprus or the Kurds or the Armenians, or Human Rights violations, or no freedom of the Press and so on. Nobody said Turkey lacks imagination or dreams of grandeur delusions.

As for Turkey talking trash about choosing the TCs (parasites to Erdogan) over the EU, is ONLY because she can't have the EU. How else can she save face. In the last few months, Turkey has lost so much face with all her big talks and no action, no one can possible take Turkey seriously in what she says. Besides, Turkey wants the island of Cyprus and not the TCs. What is Turkey going to do with 70,000 TCs when she already have over 70 million Turks, specially TCs are not even religious. Just remember something, that there will always be Turkey after Erdogan and all the Neo Islamist in the Turkish Government are gone. "Time Does not Stand Still!"

Excellent points. Turkey has overplayed its hand, thinking it could force the EU into allowing its accession to proceed while formalising the partition of the island. Only the EU has refused to play Turkey's dirty little game. Turkey now understands that its EU accession is dependent on a withdrawal from Cyprus and a solution that is acceptable to the GCs. Without such a solution, Turkey risks not only its EU accession but its future economic and strategic interests as well.

Hello Turkey knows full well there is no EU accession why do you think it is that she has done nothing to move forward..all she is doing is playing the appear to want entry....the EU doesnt have the balls to call her bluff and say that accession has been cancelled.

VP, it's more than just accession though, if you bothered to read and understand the opening post you would see that the Turkish minister was complaining about unfair aspects of the Customs Union. The Turkish economy would nosedive if it withdrew from the CU, European investors may even seek alternative underdeveloped counties to invest in - like Greece.

Turkey will always complain nothing new there but because the EU does not have any balls they will do nothing as usual and things will go on a per normal. If after 7 years you people still dont under stand that the EU will not sane you just as Greece didnt then you are more stupid than I thought.

Its not that the EU does not have the balls, it is that the EU knows when to speak and when to say nothing, unlike Turkeys amatuer politicians who open their mouths just to make noise and talk out of turn with negative 'beta' behaviours laced with threats, which are never productive and generally amount to nothing.

The EU is listening silently and not reacting. Maybe the EU just wants plausible deniability once it has all been said and done. Did you read the article VP? Turkey is ultimately playing with the cards the EU deals to her and it seems that arrangements have been made, silently, to replace and squeeze Turkey out first. Why does the EU need to tell Turkey anything, she will find out in due time without too much effort or bother from the EU.

Turkey is just being strung along......

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Its Turkey that stringing the EU along because it knows full well that she will never make the changes to proceed into the EU has Turkey has never been a suitable candidate or European in any shape or form.

That leaves the GCs with no leverage and up the stream without a paddle.

[Kikapu]

The EU does not want to look like Pricks to cancel Turkey's membership talks. They will want Turkey to look like Pricks by letting her screw-herself out of the EU membership talks, which Turkey is doing just that without any help from anyone, even without ANY guarantees that she will get to keep the north.

Last time I looked, the bookmakers were giving 1,000,000 to 1 odds against Turkey getting to keep the north.

[Jerry]

We are wasting our time discussing this with VP. He does not understand how the loss of the Customs Union will affect the Turkish economy.

I'll spell it out one more time.

Loss of Customs Union = loss of much trade with EU = loss of confidence in Turkish economy = loss of European investment = Loss of paddle

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The EU does not want to look like Pricks to cancel Turkey's membership talks. They will want Turkey to look like Pricks by letting her screw-herself out of the EU membership talks, which Turkey is doing just that without any help from anyone, even without ANY guarantees that she will get to keep the north.

Last time I looked, the bookmakers were giving 1,000,000 to 1 odds against Turkey getting to keep the north.

As i have always said Turkey will never get into the EU, therefore erasing the GC leverage.