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[boomerang]

i didn't celebrate the euro win

That is yet another indication that you are not representative of the Cypriot population. The streets were packed with people celebrating moments after Greece won the Euro.

first of you have no fucking clue what the hell is happening down here so you comment really is of no substance...

what i do see you are also in favour of the greek flag flying when it should be the cypriot flag huh?...your silence on this is very defeaning mate...what happen?..are you ok with the greeks stealing our identity in front of the whole world...what's the matter with you?....what are you an identity assassin?...

i am not happy with the greeks stealing my identity...I am a cypriot...

[boomerang]

i didn't celebrate the euro win, but sure as hell i curse when they are stealing our thunder from us during the OZ open with their greek flags...it's our time, it's our 15 minute of fame...the bastards...

Remember when I went to the Aussie Open a couple of years back? Well, I saw those idiots in full flight. They were total morons.

They knew nothing of Tennis, were basically Soccer Fans that appeared lost, and carrying those stupid Flags. The Hellas Ottoman Fan Club of Australia they called themselves.

It was a complete embarrassment!

i know mate even the commentators are always puzzled...always a shame full event and this year will not be any different....i am off tennis for this reason...i just can't see why they turn up with their bloody greek flags...

[Piratis]

I am not avoiding anything Piratis. I did not answer because your assertion is daft to say the least, and I am not mentioning you avoiding to answer one of my questions. Those peoples we call Khoirokitians and Sotirans were the original first inhabitants of Cyprus, much like the Aborigines were the first inhabitants of Australia. Later, it was not just Greeks that came, but the Phoenicians who invented Linear B thus laying the foundation for the Greek Alphabet. That does not make them Greek anymore than it makes the Aborigines Englishmen. They are Cypriots. A completely separate people, and no, these people didn't vanish into thin air, unless you Greeks want to openly confess to a genocide!

How can the Chirokitians and the Sotirans both be the original first inhabitants of Cyprus when the Chirokitians group came to Cyprus 1000s of years before the Sotirans? If indigenous people are only the very first and all the rest foreigners, then the Sotirans must be foreigners as well. And you didn't answer to the other question that I asked: Did these people that came from Anatolia and Levant became Cypriots the moment they set their foot on Cyprus? Or did it take some time? How much time? Answer, remembering that Greeks are in Cyprus for more than 3000 years, longer than any other group.

Australia is one nation and has its own ID thank you very much. It decided a long time ago to let go of any attachments to the so called mother.

Cyprus on the other hand has never been a part of the "Greek" nation.

You avoided answering about the Kangaroo island. Are they of the "Kangaroo Ethnicity"?

Actually, you will be surprised. Cyprus isn't that strategic in this day and age. The Brits, Yanks can set up bases just about anywhere. Yes you name it. From Turkey, to Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait et al. So how strategic do you think you are?

And what difference does it make? If we were smart, we would have given them exactly what they wanted without the need for any fight, and they would have granted us independence, if not in 1960, then in 1965 and without the Zurich Constitution. And this stupidity I blame on the so called Hellenes such as yourself, who are too stupid to see past your noses.

None of those bases are sovereign. And if the majority of people wanted enosis then why would the British deny this, apart from serving their own interests?

I bet that most Cypriots would want to knock you out if you said that to their faces! Yes 40,000 thousand people on the streets does not classify as the majority being Greek.

There were 50,000 on the streets of Melbourne as well, but that does not mean that most Melbournians are Greek!

Don't bet because you would lose. The vast majority of Cypriots are Greek.

[boomerang]

hey are you happy the greeks stealing our thunder in front of the whole world...it's either a yes or no piradis...come on buddy we need to step up this discussion to a higher level...like fucking today and not 3000 years ago...come on...

[Piratis]

first of all piratis i wasn't talking about me becoming an aboriginal is the aboriginals assimilated via extreme brute force becoming white...and people like you in a 1000 years spewing the bullshit as you do now...come on man get it together...

man you lost the plot with your first sentence...what do you think existed in australia...all aboriginals came from the same place?...there are many tribes with the exemption of tassie where they murder them all...does the expression forced assimilation/extermination mean anything to you?...look at the linobambaki, look at yfred...I am not having a go at yfred, just using the example as forced assimilation...same with the armenians and maronites and latins...what choices did anyone offer them?...apart from mistreatment from the start till they towed the line...

piratis this is the 21 st century and you need to let go of your 2000 year braiwashing...

where you educated in greece?...and you had to change because you didn't fit in?...

and yes you are right piratis...i ain't no greek coz i am a cypriot...see that wasn't so hard for you to comprehend was it?...

I was educated in Cyprus and aboard (but not in any other Greek territory). Where have you been educated?

None of those mistreatments that you talk about came from us. On the contrary we were mistreated by others, but most of us managed to maintain our identity. If you didn't, thats too bad for you as you were one of the victims.

[Paphitis]

I am not avoiding anything Piratis. I did not answer because your assertion is daft to say the least, and I am not mentioning you avoiding to answer one of my questions. Those peoples we call Khoirokitians and Sotirans were the original first inhabitants of Cyprus, much like the Aborigines were the first inhabitants of Australia. Later, it was not just Greeks that came, but the Phoenicians who invented Linear B thus laying the foundation for the Greek Alphabet. That does not make them Greek anymore than it makes the Aborigines Englishmen. They are Cypriots. A completely separate people, and no, these people didn't vanish into thin air, unless you Greeks want to openly confess to a genocide!

How can the Chirokitians and the Sotirans both be the original first inhabitants of Cyprus when the Chirokitians group came to Cyprus 1000s of years before the Sotirans? If indigenous people are only the very first and all the rest foreigners, then the Sotirans must be foreigners as well. And you didn't answer to the other question that I asked: Did these people that came from Anatolia and Levant became Cypriots the moment they set their foot on Cyprus? Or did it take some time? How much time? Answer, remembering that Greeks are in Cyprus for more than 3000 years, longer than any other group.

Now you are being very silly. Does it really matter that the Sotirans came after? The point being, Cyprus already had a thriving indigenous population well before 1100BC.

Australia is one nation and has its own ID thank you very much. It decided a long time ago to let go of any attachments to the so called mother.

Cyprus on the other hand has never been a part of the "Greek" nation.

You avoided answering about the Kangaroo island. Are they of the "Kangaroo Ethnicity"?

You mean if you are from Tasmania?

You are now being extremely daft Piratis, and childish!

Actually, you will be surprised. Cyprus isn't that strategic in this day and age. The Brits, Yanks can set up bases just about anywhere. Yes you name it. From Turkey, to Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait et al. So how strategic do you think you are?

And what difference does it make? If we were smart, we would have given them exactly what they wanted without the need for any fight, and they would have granted us independence, if not in 1960, then in 1965 and without the Zurich Constitution. And this stupidity I blame on the so called Hellenes such as yourself, who are too stupid to see past your noses.

None of those bases are sovereign. And if the majority of people wanted enosis then why would the British deny this, apart from serving their own interests?

So what? They don't need to be sovereign, but they may as well be.

I bet that most Cypriots would want to knock you out if you said that to their faces! Yes 40,000 thousand people on the streets does not classify as the majority being Greek.

There were 50,000 on the streets of Melbourne as well, but that does not mean that most Melbournians are Greek!

Don't bet because you would lose. The vast majority of Cypriots are Greek.

I think you should stop speaking for others, because sure as hell, you will get hurt in the wrong hood!

[Piratis]

i didn't celebrate the euro win

That is yet another indication that you are not representative of the Cypriot population. The streets were packed with people celebrating moments after Greece won the Euro.

first of you have no fucking clue what the hell is happening down here so you comment really is of no substance...

what i do see you are also in favour of the greek flag flying when it should be the cypriot flag huh?...your silence on this is very defeaning mate...what happen?..are you ok with the greeks stealing our identity in front of the whole world...what's the matter with you?....what are you an identity assassin?...

i am not happy with the greeks stealing my identity...I am a cypriot...

I know what is happening in Cyprus and you know what is happening in Australia. Fair?

Our identity is Greek, and those who are trying to assassinate our identity are the British and the Turks. You are one of the victims, not much unlike YFred that you talked about earlier.

[Paphitis]

I was educated in Cyprus and aboard (but not in any other Greek territory). Where have you been educated?

I think you should ask for a refund!

[boomerang]

first of all piratis i wasn't talking about me becoming an aboriginal is the aboriginals assimilated via extreme brute force becoming white...and people like you in a 1000 years spewing the bullshit as you do now...come on man get it together...

man you lost the plot with your first sentence...what do you think existed in australia...all aboriginals came from the same place?...there are many tribes with the exemption of tassie where they murder them all...does the expression forced assimilation/extermination mean anything to you?...look at the linobambaki, look at yfred...I am not having a go at yfred, just using the example as forced assimilation...same with the armenians and maronites and latins...what choices did anyone offer them?...apart from mistreatment from the start till they towed the line...

piratis this is the 21 st century and you need to let go of your 2000 year braiwashing...

where you educated in greece?...and you had to change because you didn't fit in?...

and yes you are right piratis...i ain't no greek coz i am a cypriot...see that wasn't so hard for you to comprehend was it?...

I was educated in Cyprus and aboard (but not in any other Greek territory). Where have you been educated?

None of those mistreatments that you talk about came from us. On the contrary we were mistreated by others, but most of us managed to maintain our identity. If you didn't, thats too bad for you as you were one of the victims.

piratis i have a lot of respect for you when you talk about democracy, human rights and the rule of law, and you seemed to be very knowledgeable and passionate, but on on this one i am afraid you are a confuse puppy...i say this because i also believe you excelled in your studies thus you became a bookworm an academic, similar to bananiot at the other end of the scale...not really experienced in any other forms of living or anything in practice...just read a book, bookmark the relevant pages and start quoting as gospel...piratis i have news for you for everybook written there is an agenda behind it...nothing is the truth...you need to also start listening to others experiences and express honest opinions, not quotes from a book...

piratis do not look, start seeing, do not hear start listening...

i am not a victim my friend, the victim here is you with your
1...identity crisis
2...never really experienced anything or rather embraced anything but greek...

actually piratis, i am spiritually a lot richer than you because i know who I am...

[Piratis]

Now you are being very silly. Does it really matter that the Sotirans came after? The point being, Cyprus already had a thriving indigenous population well before 1100BC.

So anybody that came from Anatolia or the Levant to Cyprus before Greeks came is automatically "indigenous" even if their history in Cyprus is shorter than the 3000+ years that Greeks existed on this island. Is that what you are saying?

And according to you even though the Chirokitians and the Sotirans came to Cyprus in different times and shared nothing in common, they are both indigenous Cypriots, but Greeks somehow can not be indegenous to Cyprus. Is that right?

You mean if you are from Tasmania?

You are now being extremely daft Piratis, and childish!

No, I mean the Kangaroo Island http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_Island

Are they of the "Kangaroo Ethnicity" there? Should every island really have a different ethnicity?

So what? They don't need to be sovereign, but they may as well be.

No mate. Only a small weak country would accept part of its territory to come under the sovereignty of somebody else. And that is exactly what the British and the Turks wanted us to be. A small weak separate country that they could continue to abuse. The Americans have bases in Crete but they are not sovereign. The Greek people have the right to close down those bases. This right was removed from us and the British took full control of 2 parts of our island.

I think you should stop speaking for others, because sure as hell, you will get hurt in the wrong hood!

I think you should follow your own advice and talk for yourself Your views on this issue are not at all representative of the majority of the Cypriot population.