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[repulsewarrior]

indeed, i was looking for a midget hippopotamus to make some souvla with.

the "geostrategical, economical and other factors" are what the subjugators whould have the Cypriots (and the world) believe...

...more importantly is what is right.

[Piratis]

Kimon, both are well documented in a number of books. I suggest you start with "Pikres Alitheies" by Pavlos M. Digklis. I think you can find the names of all GC murdered by EOKA on the internet. I will check it out.

If the British had respected the democratically expressed will of the Cypriot people there would be no EOKA to begin with. There would be just a referendum followed by freedom of Cyprus and union with the rest of Greece. This should have happened long time before 1955 since it was the demand of the vast majority of the Cypriot people for many decades.

The revolution for freedom and self-determination was one that the vast majority of Cypriots supported and was the last resort of Cypriots after the British insisted that Cyprus would never gain its self-determination. Beyond that, if some used the struggle to settle different kinds of accounts, this is something separate from the struggle for freedom.

[kimon07]

Here is a start:

http://www.makarios.eu/cgibin/hweb?-A=7 ... %CF%CA%C1@

I will get into it soonest and come back. Sorry bit busy these days but thanks.

[yialousa1971]

Cyprus was not a country, but an island like every other Greek island. Becoming a separate country (with some pseudo independence) instead of becoming part of the Greek state as it happened with most other Greek islands was not the choice of the Cypriot people, but the choice of the British and the Turks who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of our nation so they could continue to serve their interests on our expense.

Our nation is the Greek nation and this has been the case even before the creation of the Greek state. If we were not Greeks how would we turned into Greeks while Cyprus was under the rule of the Turks and the British? If the Greeks had some magical powers to turn non-Greeks into Greeks from thousands of miles away, then why didn't they turn the whole world into Greeks?

Those who ruled and oppressed Cyprus were the ones who attempted the genocide of our nation in Cyprus and YOU are one of the victims. Unfortunately for the British and the Turks, victims like yourself are only a small minority, and their attempt to commit a genocide of the Greek nation in Cyprus has failed.

Bullshit bullshit it all reads like bullshit to me to me.

you know every time you and the female counterpart and others of that ilk continue to promote enosis and sending the Turkish Cypriots back to Turkey then te Tur*s rub their hands with Glee because it gives them all the excuse they need to to say they are they to protect the Turkish Cypriots: GR is absolutely right, and so is bananiot, on this issue.

When in Rome live like a Roman. When in Cyprus live like a Greek not like some Anglo carpetbagger Turk lover.

[supporttheunderdog]

Cyprus was not a country, but an island like every other Greek island. Becoming a separate country (with some pseudo independence) instead of becoming part of the Greek state as it happened with most other Greek islands was not the choice of the Cypriot people, but the choice of the British and the Turks who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of our nation so they could continue to serve their interests on our expense.

Our nation is the Greek nation and this has been the case even before the creation of the Greek state. If we were not Greeks how would we turned into Greeks while Cyprus was under the rule of the Turks and the British? If the Greeks had some magical powers to turn non-Greeks into Greeks from thousands of miles away, then why didn't they turn the whole world into Greeks?

Those who ruled and oppressed Cyprus were the ones who attempted the genocide of our nation in Cyprus and YOU are one of the victims. Unfortunately for the British and the Turks, victims like yourself are only a small minority, and their attempt to commit a genocide of the Greek nation in Cyprus has failed.

Bullshit bullshit it all reads like bullshit to me to me.

you know every time you and the female counterpart and others of that ilk continue to promote enosis and sending the Turkish Cypriots back to Turkey then te Tur*s rub their hands with Glee because it gives them all the excuse they need to to say they are they to protect the Turkish Cypriots: GR is absolutely right, and so is bananiot, on this issue.

When in Rome live like a Roman. When in Cyprus live like a Greek not like some Anglo carpetbagger Turk lover.

No: live like a CYPRIOT - not a Greek nor a Tur*. and the carpet b*ggers can sod of back to where they came from along with the TA and the settllers.

[boomerang]

Cyprus was not a country, but an island like every other Greek island. Becoming a separate country (with some pseudo independence) instead of becoming part of the Greek state as it happened with most other Greek islands was not the choice of the Cypriot people, but the choice of the British and the Turks who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of our nation so they could continue to serve their interests on our expense.

Our nation is the Greek nation and this has been the case even before the creation of the Greek state. If we were not Greeks how would we turned into Greeks while Cyprus was under the rule of the Turks and the British? If the Greeks had some magical powers to turn non-Greeks into Greeks from thousands of miles away, then why didn't they turn the whole world into Greeks?

Those who ruled and oppressed Cyprus were the ones who attempted the genocide of our nation in Cyprus and YOU are one of the victims. Unfortunately for the British and the Turks, victims like yourself are only a small minority, and their attempt to commit a genocide of the Greek nation in Cyprus has failed.

Bullshit bullshit it all reads like bullshit to me to me.

you know every time you and the female counterpart and others of that ilk continue to promote enosis and sending the Turkish Cypriots back to Turkey then te Tur*s rub their hands with Glee because it gives them all the excuse they need to to say they are they to protect the Turkish Cypriots: GR is absolutely right, and so is bananiot, on this issue.

When in Rome live like a Roman. When in Cyprus live like a Greek not like some Anglo carpetbagger Turk lover.

No: live like a CYPRIOT - not a Greek nor a Tur*. and the carpet b*ggers can sod of back to where they came from along with the TA and the settllers.

this is the problem dog...nothing is enough for these people...they had control of the roc from 64 to 74 and that was not enough for them...they needed to gift a 1/3 of cyprus to turkey so they can continue whining and blaming others when the biggest sellout was their fucking motherland...

[supporttheunderdog]

The answer may lie in the following post:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus36890-30.html?hilit=grivas#p705177

There is also the famous letter to the Junta when Big Mak basically said Enosis was not going to happen - it was not feasable and they should stop supporting EOKA B and pull out the Greek Officers. See the following
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/makarios%20to%20ghizikis.html

The following is also intertesting: Big Mak onec again commenting that acts against him were because he was a barrier to enosis.
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/makarios%20-%20interview%20with%20fallaci.htm

[Get Real!]

When in Rome live like a Roman. When in Cyprus live like a Greek...

Hmm, let's see now...

Rome > Roman > Correct!
Cyprus > Greek >
Cyprus > Cypriot > Correct!

You should start following your own advice Yialoser!

[yialousa1971]

When in Rome live like a Roman. When in Cyprus live like a Greek...

Hmm, let's see now...

Rome > Roman > Correct!
Cyprus > Greek > Correct!
Cyprus > Cypriot > Correct!

You should start following my advice Yialousa!

[yialousa1971]

Kimon, both are well documented in a number of books. I suggest you start with "Pikres Alitheies" by Pavlos M. Digklis. I think you can find the names of all GC murdered by EOKA on the internet. I will check it out.

If the British had respected the democratically expressed will of the Cypriot people there would be no EOKA to begin with. There would be just a referendum followed by freedom of Cyprus and union with the rest of Greece. This should have happened long time before 1955 since it was the demand of the vast majority of the Cypriot people for many decades.

The revolution for freedom and self-determination was one that the vast majority of Cypriots supported and was the last resort of Cypriots after the British insisted that Cyprus would never gain its self-determination. Beyond that, if some used the struggle to settle different kinds of accounts, this is something separate from the struggle for freedom.

The most important thing to remember Piratis is if there had been union with Greece the Turks would have never invaded in 1974.