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[Bananiot]

When nationalists overwhelm you, take a couple of soothing 2 min break:



Then feel sorry for the poor sods.

[bill cobbett]

As per usual you’re posting unsubstantiated fantasies and are a good example of a mentally damaged child that was growing up in the early 70s in Cyprus under Greece’s imposed education system and many other maniacal attempts to obliterate the Cypriot culture and replace it with theirs.

How did you avoid getting 'damaged'?

I was an extremely inquisitive boy who tried to apply logic and understanding from a very young age. When my father bought me a green pencil case with a yellow Cyprus on it I studied it carefully and noted the major towns and overall layout.

Later, I recall one time when I was 7 or 8 and a national holiday (most likely Greek) was approaching and the teacher handed out small pieces of paper onto which we were asked to draw and color the flag. All the kids set about drawing a cross in the top left hand corner and forming horizontal stripes which they colored in blue! I however drew the outline of the island Cyprus (which I could see on my pencil case) and painted it yellow because I had seen the flag of Cyprus elsewhere and it edged in my brain!

At some point the young female teacher started making her way round to each pupil to check on their progress with little comments like “Good” or “You left out this” and “Color it in better” and such, until she got to me.

In a horrified stare she asked “What’s that??” and I said “It’s the flag Miss!” and no sooner did I finish my sentence that she swiped her palm across my ear and cheek and nearly sent me off my chair!

It was the very moment in my life when I knew we had a problem in our country. It was as if aliens had infiltrated our country and were coercing us in a direction of their choice.

With that incident my resistance was firmly implanted; a tiny seed that would gradually mature into a tree…I knew well who I was and no amount of coercion was going to change that.

The above is a really nice story GR... one of very enlightened self-discovery.

[Piratis]

Bananiot, too bad that you only have problem with patriots that strive for the freedom of their own lands, and yet you have no problem whatsoever with nationalists of countries such as Turkey and Britain who send their troops to oppress, exploit and violate the human rights of other people. According to you those Imperialists fascists are just "forces" which we need to accept, while what is unacceptable is striving for freedom. You should feel sorry for yourself. Even a slave would be more free than you are. Your mind is enslaved and nobody can save you.

[Piratis]

I had seen the flag of Cyprus elsewhere and it edged in my brain

Well, it didn't take much to brainwash you aparently. Just showing you a flag was all that was needed. No need for you to study the history of Cyprus and how we ended up having a separate country with that flag, which was not a result of the free will of the Cypriot people, but a result of blackmail and brute force applied by foreigners who wanted to keep Cyprus separate from the rest of our nation so it would be easier for themselves to continue to abuse our island.

[Get Real!]

It’s not an oxymoron at all Piratis, because Cyprus’ tiny size meant that a very small budget was all that was needed to constantly feed the propaganda machine with their version of free history books, paraphernalia for their celebrations, free education to teachers, etc!

The only time Greece was spending money on Cyprus was to aid their nationalist cause and I’m surprised you’re on the verge of denying it all!

Are you sure you were in Cyprus late 60s and early 70s?


As for you persistence that we are “Greeks”…

I have already taken you through regional history in an earlier post, from 500AD to 1960AD and there was no trace of Greece or anything Greek in the lives of Cypriots so on what basis do you insist that you are tied to Greece and where did you get that information if not the Greece-sponsored education system?

[Get Real!]

I wonder how many kids noticed back then, that all their books had this logo at the back…

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UvnSEzoUXps/T ... %25B13.jpg

Or the full name… “Οργανισμός Εκδόσεως Διδακτικών Βιβλίων”

Translation: “Publishing Organization of Educational Books”

Who is this organization I ask? You can read about them here…

http://www.fa3.gr/nomothesia_2/nomoth_e ... B_info.htm

That’s right, it’s the national Greek publisher of “social justice” as it calls itself and all the FREE literature in Cyprus came from them!

Happy reading Piratis…

[Bananiot]

Piratis, my problem is with the bash patriots, not the patriots. What distinguishes the two are their acts. The bash patriots of our side destroyed us in the name of enosis, despite the fact that enosis was beyond our reach. Going for enosis under these circumstances was foolishly treacherous and got us where we are now. These bash patriots, like you, sounded very patriotic, but they brought calamity to us.

A true patriot weighs things and thinks very carefully on the form of struggle that is best to achieve the set aim. All parameters are taken into consideration and attainable targets are set. This is what someone that loves his country does. A patriot is considerate and does not stumble on the lives of minorities or inhabitants who might differ from us in one or another way.

[Piratis]

Get Real, Cyprus being a Greek island received books like all other Greek islands. Isn't this obvious? The books didn't turn us into Greeks, we were already Greeks, which is why we wanted the books.

If all that was needed to turn the inhabitants of an island into Greeks was to send to them free Greek books then why didn't they also send them to Malta, Sardinia, Corsica etc? And if Turkey would tomorrow stat sending to us free Turkish books, would we turn into Turks? Sorry my friend, but your arguments are lame.

[Get Real!]

Get Real, Cyprus being a Greek island received books like all other Greek islands. Isn't this obvious? The books didn't turn us into Greeks, we were already Greeks, which is why we wanted the books.

If all that was needed to turn the inhabitants of an island into Greeks was to send to them free Greek books then why didn't they also send them to Malta, Sardinia, Corsica etc? And if Turkey would tomorrow stat sending to us free Turkish books, would we turn into Turks? Sorry my friend, but your arguments are lame.

Maybe one day you'll be able to explain to your self (don’t worry about me) how and when you became “Greek” because I'm sure the feeling would be even better if there was some realism to it.

It’s like the difference between taking cocaine and crack cocaine…

[Piratis]

Piratis, my problem is with the bash patriots, not the patriots. What distinguishes the two are their acts. The bash patriots of our side destroyed us in the name of enosis, despite the fact that enosis was beyond our reach. Going for enosis under these circumstances was foolishly treacherous and got us where we are now. These bash patriots, like you, sounded very patriotic, but they brought calamity to us.

A true patriot weighs things and thinks very carefully on the form of struggle that is best to achieve the set aim. All parameters are taken into consideration and attainable targets are set. This is what someone that loves his country does. A patriot is considerate and does not stumble on the lives of minorities or inhabitants who might differ from us in one or another way.

A true patriot does not weight anything. He fights for the freedom of his country regardless of the odds. According to you those who resited the Nazis in the initial stages of WWII were "bash patriots" because they fought a war that most probably they could not win. According to you instead of fighting the Nazis they should have kissed their ass so that the Nazis would be a bit nicer to them when they enslaved them. No kind of real patriot thinks like this. On the contary the best patriots are those who keep fighting when the odds are against them. Those who kiss the ass of the invaders and only remember to become patriots when patriotism is easy are not patriots at all.