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[supporttheunderdog]

and try telling it to those others on CF who to this day still support the aims of Eoka B, Greek Junta and the coupists.

Name these coupist, eokab and greek junta supporters.......its a well known fact that prior to 74 being a eoka b member or supporter was illegal in cyprus.

You missed out some words from the question - " the aims of" - one may support the aims of an organisation - in this case the destruction of cyprus as an Indepedent Sovereign nation state, ( as recognised in treaty by eg Greece, who guaranteed the independance of Cyprus), and its absorbtion by a foreign power - Greece - without supporting the methods of or the organisation itself.

Who are these coupist supporters and eoka b supporters on this forum? is that better? and what do they say that supports eoka b or the coup?

No it is not better - the words "the aims of" are still missing.

The aim of EOKA B, the Junta and their coupist lackeys was the destruction of the independant sovereign nation state of Cyprus and its absorbtion by a different sovereign state , Greece i.e. Enosis.

In my personal view the people who support the aims of the coupists Eoka B and the Junta as defined above are all of those who support enosis today, since it involves the destruction of Cyprus as an independant sovereign nation state and its absorbtion by Greece.

They know who they are - are you one of them ?

In my opinion Geek Island Grill appears to be. I think we can Kuru and Sotos to the list. They may not have ever directly supported EOKA B, the Coupists the Junta or their methods but I think it fair to say they support their aim. i.e, Enosis . Am I wrong? Oh and I do not forget Youlooser.


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[GreekIslandGirl]

STUD - Stop making an idiot of yourself with your paranoid delusions. You are so out of touch with the historical nuances of Cyprus and its native people that even if Pytheas brought you back with him, some 2,500 years ago, you still would not get it.

EOKA B and the junta were not supported by the majority of Greeks/GCs. They were fascist splinter groups which tried to impose tyranny upon us, both in Greece and Cyprus. They were rightfully resisted and overthrown. The mess left by tyrants (the opportunist turks), takes a long time to clear up.

- For the last time - we have Enosis with Greece through the EU, through our alliances, through language, religion, commonality, culture, aims, ethos etc etc etc. There is only one remaining aim to complete and on that we also have enosis (unity) agreement upon - to remove the Turkish troops 100% from Cyprus.

[Bananiot]

Show me anything that Makarios did that proved that his policies as President of Cyprus, were tactics for enosis.

Suppose I did. Will you change your stance after, Cowboy?

[supporttheunderdog]

STUD - Stop making an idiot of yourself with your paranoid delusions. You are so out of touch with the historical nuances of Cyprus and its native people that even if Pytheas brought you back with him, some 2,500 years ago, you still would not get it.

EOKA B and the junta were not supported by the majority of Greeks/GCs. They were fascist splinter groups which tried to impose tyranny upon us, both in Greece and Cyprus. They were rightfully resisted and overthrown. The mess left by tyrants (the opportunist turks), takes a long time to clear up.

- For the last time - we have Enosis with Greece through the EU, through our alliances, through language, religion, commonality, culture, aims, ethos etc etc etc. There is only one remaining aim to complete and on that we also have enosis (unity) agreement upon - to remove the Turkish troops 100% from Cyprus.

You make the same mistake that WC does - Where I have said anyone, let alone the majority of the populace supported the organsiationsthemselves ,,,,

As forAlready having Enosis with Greece via the EU? Is the Cyprus run by that foreign government in Athens? But if that is how you look at it then it appears to me that by the same token you have Enosis with the rest of the EU, which includes Britain. YOU make yourself look stupid with remarks like that.

[GreekIslandGirl]

It's very subtle, stud, so it's acceptable that you flounder trying to understand.

Cyprus should not be left estranged - isolated, not only from Greece but from the rest of Europe. The Europe constructed out of the foundations laid by our heritage and culture. This enosis we have with Greece is only right - and the rest of Europe is a bonus! Like-minded democrats united as states within a richer whole. Much like Greece initially started out, several thousand years ago.

- The UK is only a token member of the EU. Only just slightly more a member than Turkey, and we know Turkey isn't a member. These two countries, are at the outskirts of Europe, geographically and mentally. They have so much in common - both having used their 'Might' to acquire and keep a foothold in Cyprus.

[wyoming cowboy]

and try telling it to those others on CF who to this day still support the aims of Eoka B, Greek Junta and the coupists.

Name these coupist, eokab and greek junta supporters.......its a well known fact that prior to 74 being a eoka b member or supporter was illegal in cyprus.

You missed out some words from the question - " the aims of" - one may support the aims of an organisation - in this case the destruction of cyprus as an Indepedent Sovereign nation state, ( as recognised in treaty by eg Greece, who guaranteed the independance of Cyprus), and its absorbtion by a foreign power - Greece - without supporting the methods of or the organisation itself.

Who are these coupist supporters and eoka b supporters on this forum? is that better? and what do they say that supports eoka b or the coup?

No it is not better - the words "the aims of" are still missing.

The aim of EOKA B, the Junta and their coupist lackeys was the destruction of the independant sovereign nation state of Cyprus and its absorbtion by a different sovereign state , Greece i.e. Enosis.

In my personal view the people who support the aims of the coupists Eoka B and the Junta as defined above are all of those who support enosis today, since it involves the destruction of Cyprus as an independant sovereign nation state and its absorbtion by Greece.

They know who they are - are you one of them ?

In my opinion Geek Island Grill appears to be. I think we can Kuru and Sotos to the list. They may not have ever directly supported EOKA B, the Coupists the Junta or their methods but I think it fair to say they support their aim. i.e, Enosis . Am I wrong? Oh and I do not forget Youlooser.


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The aims of the junta and eoka b were to overthrow President Makarios, in order to fulfill the wishes of Nato, cia and the British. Makarios during those years was seen by the above as "the castro of the mediterranean". I havent seen any forumers who advocated the overthrow of Makarios. I still dont understand your question.

[supporttheunderdog]

I agree with you that Cyprus should not be left estranged from Europe despite being geographically a part of Asia (like most of Turkey, but Istanbul is partly on the continent of Europethe Ankara the Capital, like Lefkosia is not) and even more on the outskits of Europe at least geographically but Britain is a full member of the same EU. not a token member, with as fully a democratic system of government as any other and with probabay a longer continuous recent history of develping democracy (starting with the 13th century parliament of Simon de Montford) than many others (I am aware eg certain Viking orientated countries such as Iceland have an older history)

You accuse me of bias, but I suggest you to have your own anti-Briish biases and prejudices - I think there is a biblical phrase about motes in eye which probably applies to you as much as me.

I for may part belive in the independance of Cyprus as a soverigh nation (within the EU ) as an equal in its own right with Britain and Greece which is probaby more then can be said for you .

[GreekIslandGirl]

I for may part belive in the independance of Cyprus as a soverigh nation (within the EU ) as an equal in its own right with Britain and Greece which is probaby more then can be said for you .

Then please allow Cyprus its historic cultural connection ('enosis') with Greece, so that it can complete its liberation from Turks and Brits (as in SBAs).

[Before you have an apoplectic rant about the use of the word 'enosis' remember that I've told you already that you don't get its meaning (clue: it has nothing to do with EOKA B' or any loss of 'independence').

[supporttheunderdog]

I for may part belive in the independance of Cyprus as a soverigh nation (within the EU ) as an equal in its own right with Britain and Greece which is probaby more then can be said for you .

Then please allow Cyprus its historic cultural connection ('enosis') with Greece, so that it can complete its liberation from Turks and Brits (as in SBAs).

[Before you have an apoplectic rant about the use of the word 'enosis' remember that I've told you already that you don't get its meaning (clue: it has nothing to do with EOKA B' or any loss of 'independence').

Political Union with Greece (which is what I understand the campaign for enosis to be) would inevitably lead to loss of independance of Cyprus and imposition of rule from a government based 900km away from Lefkosia. Or is political union with Greece not what Enosis is all about ? If it does not involve political union with Greece - and with it the destruction of the ROC as a sovereign independant nation, - what does it involve? Otherwise seems a very airy fairy concept.

[repulsewarrior]

...if Makarios was alive, he would have brought us into the EU. i think it would have been the step above, the union with Greekness as opposed to Turkishness he sought, not part of a State of Greece, but a State of Greeks having the same National Identity (and a unity in those ideals).

...enosis evolved, and it does not necessarily mean a common postal system, common currency, or representation because of taxation.