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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby boulio » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:29 pm

no because the g/c community and greece have signed the treaty of guranteror that technically is still in force.you will have to negotiate from that point,again do you have any better idea id like to hear it that satisfies every side?
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:59 pm

boulio wrote:no because the g/c community and greece have signed the treaty of guranteror that technically is still in force.you will have to negotiate from that point,again do you have any better idea id like to hear it that satisfies every side?


The treaty of gaurantor you are referring to is no longer valid. It has been violated by all gaurantors. Britain, Greece and Turkey.

This has now been superseded by the EU aquis and directive.
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby boulio » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:25 pm

look im trying not fight with you but if the treaty of guarantor is not valid and is violated than take it up at the UNSC and the EU council.im just trying to propose a formula that will allow all sides to come to a agreement concerning the security chapter of negotiations that is one of the most difficult ones. :roll:
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:56 pm

boulio wrote:look im trying not fight with you but if the treaty of guarantor is not valid and is violated than take it up at the UNSC and the EU council.im just trying to propose a formula that will allow all sides to come to a agreement concerning the security chapter of negotiations that is one of the most difficult ones. :roll:


This is what it will likely boil down to, fighting and the way of the jungle. As a matter of fact, it will take 5 greek cypriots to oppose you but if it was 4 there would be a stalement.

Lets say we all agree and station a NATO base in Cyprus even though Cyprus being in NATO can coexist without a base actually being here, what are you going to do about democracy?
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby humanist » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 pm

Birkibrisli ..... in a way your post is correct ... yes as far as Greek speaking Cypriots are concerned Turkish troops leaving will be a solution to the Cypro. As far as the TC's well that is up to them where they want to go. According to most on here Turkey will be a better option and your leader has now made it clear that he is advocating on behalf of Turkey.
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby boulio » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:24 pm

"Lets say we all agree and station a NATO base in Cyprus even though Cyprus being in NATO can coexist without a base actually being here, what are you going to do about democracy"


1)how will turks be here to satisfy the t/c position on security if not under a nato umbrella?

2)what do you mean about democracy?
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:27 pm

I cant believe people can be so stupid, with the TA gone and no solution we would be killing each other, bombs going off, people fighting for their homes backs attacking occupants.....are you GCs being serious or joking?
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:34 pm

boulio wrote:"Lets say we all agree and station a NATO base in Cyprus even though Cyprus being in NATO can coexist without a base actually being here, what are you going to do about democracy"


1)how will turks be here to satisfy the t/c position on security if not under a nato umbrella?

2)what do you mean about democracy?


1) Cyprus being in NATO can coexist without any foreign NATO forces actually being in Cyprus.

2) If Cyprus is to become a democracy, then decisions about her future should be conducted democratically. Thats the way it should be.
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:36 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I cant believe people can be so stupid, with the TA gone and no solution we would be killing each other, bombs going off, people fighting for their homes backs attacking occupants.....are you GCs being serious or joking?


You cant keep what is not yours and the worse thing is that your comment recognises this. You can put up a violent fight for your illegality if you want.

Its either a mentality change by some, the rule of law and the will of the majority through democracy or the way of the jungle as mother nature intended.

Stupid or what!
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Re: Both Greek and Turkish troops should depart

Postby humanist » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:37 pm

what do you think VP?
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