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[aafarrugia]

I wish to make it clear that the suggestion for the reunification of Cyprus as a single state and not a federal state is my opinion and not that of the Foreign Minister. But I am not the only one in favour of this solution. At least there used to be the UN mediator Galo Plaza who was against a federation as a solution. Do we know how many Greek Cypriots are in favour of a unified state instead of a federal state in the absence of a referendum on the subject? Perhaps there are a number of Turkish Cypriots who have no problem with a unified state, as long as their human rights and political and minority rights are respected.

As to practical details, one of the first steps is to launch a national reconciliation campaign to remove the stereotyping of each other in negative terms. If professor Benjamin Broome was able to build a peace constituency of more than 2,500 persons in the two communities from the initial dozen persons from both communities, a national effort can no doubt build a nation-wide peace constituency.

At the same time the protection of the individual and minority rights of the Turkish Cypriots should be enshrined in the Constitution, in addition to the introduction of exceptional and transitional provisions, which Archbishop Makarios had promised in his assurances to Galo Plaza (paragraphs 164 and 165).

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/galo%20p ... t%203.html

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Hermes

Of course it's incumbent on the RoC to forge links and to convince the TCs this is where their best interests lie. But in the end, if the TCs would rather choose to live under the Turkish yoke than in a unified state then that is their decision and they have to deal with the consequences.

I totally agree with your above statement for the first time.

[Hermes]

Hermes

Of course it's incumbent on the RoC to forge links and to convince the TCs this is where their best interests lie. But in the end, if the TCs would rather choose to live under the Turkish yoke than in a unified state then that is their decision and they have to deal with the consequences.

I totally agree with your above statement for the first time.

I'm glad. It's important that TCs realise that they are deliberately choosing isolation, assimilation, military rule and sanctions. No-one is forcing this upon them. It's a conscious choice. Are we agreed?

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Hermes

Of course it's incumbent on the RoC to forge links and to convince the TCs this is where their best interests lie. But in the end, if the TCs would rather choose to live under the Turkish yoke than in a unified state then that is their decision and they have to deal with the consequences.

I totally agree with your above statement for the first time.

I'm glad. It's important that TCs realise that they are deliberately choosing isolation, assimilation, military rule and sanctions. No-one is forcing this upon them. It's a conscious choice. Are we agreed?

I agree as the alternative is unthinkable.

[Pyrpolizer]

He also had his best opportunity with Talat and he messed that up as well.

Oh yes you are right. I still remember Talat's emergency flights (say ordered come here "to pull your ears") to Ankara to take some lessons. I still remember the fiasco with the Ledra crossing when it took Talat almost 2 months to learn that the Turkish Army is on top of him. Poor Christofias indeed messed everything up by taking him so long to discover who is REALLY IN CHARGE OF THE OCCUPIED

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He also had his best opportunity with Talat and he messed that up as well.

Oh yes you are right. I still remember Talat's emergency flights (say ordered come here "to pull your ears") to Ankara to take some lessons. I still remember the fiasco with the Ledra crossing when it took Talat almost 2 months to learn that the Turkish Army is on top of him. Poor Christofias indeed messed everything up by taking him so long to discover who is REALLY IN CHARGE OF THE OCCUPIED

He was your best bet, you lost that chance.

[Hermes]

Hermes

Of course it's incumbent on the RoC to forge links and to convince the TCs this is where their best interests lie. But in the end, if the TCs would rather choose to live under the Turkish yoke than in a unified state then that is their decision and they have to deal with the consequences.

I totally agree with your above statement for the first time.

I'm glad. It's important that TCs realise that they are deliberately choosing isolation, assimilation, military rule and sanctions. No-one is forcing this upon them. It's a conscious choice. Are we agreed?

I agree as the alternative is unthinkable.

Good. So no more complaints from you that anyone is forcing you to live against your will in isolation or under sanction. And no more complaints from you that you are denied your EU rights because that is also your choice. And no more complaints about the ban on trade or direct flights because you accept that is the price you must inevitably pay for living in an illegal unrecognised regime. Are we agreed?

[Pyrpolizer]

Bill is wearing a skirt kinky!

Pyro, there are a few assumptions on your think think idea, which you have not thought about.

1. You cannot buy friendship.
2. The gas you talk about will be given to the TCs whether there is an agreement or not.
3. You have to earn friendship and both sides have to want it. One cannot force friendship on another by any means to be friends.
4. In the recent marches the shout was no slavery to Turkey and no patch to the GCs.
5. Back to primary school for you but this time take Bill with you he is lacking in certain basic knowledge of garment wear.

You my friend do not understand the TCs.

You are very wise Lordo!! I promise I will pass from the primary school one of these days together with my friend Bill, and have a word with your teacher
Does halilcik cheat on you when you play marbles?

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Hermes

Of course it's incumbent on the RoC to forge links and to convince the TCs this is where their best interests lie. But in the end, if the TCs would rather choose to live under the Turkish yoke than in a unified state then that is their decision and they have to deal with the consequences.

I totally agree with your above statement for the first time.

I'm glad. It's important that TCs realise that they are deliberately choosing isolation, assimilation, military rule and sanctions. No-one is forcing this upon them. It's a conscious choice. Are we agreed?

I agree as the alternative is unthinkable.

Good. So no more complaints from you that anyone is forcing you to live against your will in isolation or under sanction. And no more complaints from you that you are denied your EU rights because that is also your choice. And no more complaints about the ban on trade or direct flights because you accept that is the price you must inevitably pay for living in an illegal unrecognised regime. Are we agreed?

Hold on there this does not mean that we will not push for improvement of our current standards....as I say once the talks stop we will both pursue our own agendas, meaning you go your way and we go ours.

For your information I am not a fan of the EU but this does not mean that i will not exploit the situation you have forced us into, this is only natural if the EU accept TCs as equal citizens of the EU then they have to treat them accordingly as the division and non resolution is the fault of both sides not just the TCs.

[Pyrpolizer]

He also had his best opportunity with Talat and he messed that up as well.

Oh yes you are right. I still remember Talat's emergency flights (say ordered come here "to pull your ears") to Ankara to take some lessons. I still remember the fiasco with the Ledra crossing when it took Talat almost 2 months to learn that the Turkish Army is on top of him. Poor Christofias indeed messed everything up by taking him so long to discover who is REALLY IN CHARGE OF THE OCCUPIED

He was your best bet, you lost that chance.

Good for you then, why are you so upset?