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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:41 am

Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Thank you ,Deniz for the timely reminder...
I will never forget the final days or weeks of December,1963....As a 12 year old I was hiding a handgranade in my pocket,waiting to blow up my mother and sisters,and myself of course,should the GC irregulars came to the door instead of my father who was fighting them off at the walls of the old city... :(
Not a particularly pleasant memory!!!


Which is this city that you were forcing GCs off?


You are slow Sotos. He is talking of the Turkish sector of Nicosia which was under attack by the various paramilitaries of Nicos Sampson, lysarides and other armed Greeks groups.
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby Sotos » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Thank you ,Deniz for the timely reminder...
I will never forget the final days or weeks of December,1963....As a 12 year old I was hiding a handgranade in my pocket,waiting to blow up my mother and sisters,and myself of course,should the GC irregulars came to the door instead of my father who was fighting them off at the walls of the old city... :(
Not a particularly pleasant memory!!!


Which is this city that you were forcing GCs off?


You are slow Sotos. He is talking of the Turkish sector of Nicosia which was under attack by the various paramilitaries of Nicos Sampson, lysarides and other armed Greeks groups.


You are slow because what he said is "fighting them off at the walls of the old city". If he wanted to say something different then he should have said that ;) I read somewhere... I think it was in this forum, that TCs evicted the Armenians from their own sector in Nicosia. Is that true?
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:13 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:
Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Thank you ,Deniz for the timely reminder...
I will never forget the final days or weeks of December,1963....As a 12 year old I was hiding a handgranade in my pocket,waiting to blow up my mother and sisters,and myself of course,should the GC irregulars came to the door instead of my father who was fighting them off at the walls of the old city... :(
Not a particularly pleasant memory!!!


Which is this city that you were forcing GCs off?


You are slow Sotos. He is talking of the Turkish sector of Nicosia which was under attack by the various paramilitaries of Nicos Sampson, lysarides and other armed Greeks groups.


You are slow because what he said is "fighting them off at the walls of the old city". If he wanted to say something different then he should have said that ;) I read somewhere... I think it was in this forum, that TCs evicted the Armenians from their own sector in Nicosia. Is that true?


I dont know if they had their own sector, but in Nicosia there were areas where they were in large numbers. In Trahona where I stayed for two years in term time there were a large number. Many more also lived in the Arab Hmet district and towards the Paphos Gte area around the Armenian church. Some Armenians were murdered in the Kiosklou Çiftlik area that I kow of. This surely was enough to scare the rest of our Armenian neighbour to leave the 'Turkish' sector till a ceasefire. I doubt any returned. Years later I met some of the Garabet family in London. Doubtless the TCs also left the safety of their homes for safety in numbers to other areas (normal, woldnt you say). To be safe from marauding Greek Cypriots.
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:21st December arrives again. A date which gets me thinking. I always remember the terrible events of 21st December 1963. Now we are in 2011, and still no solution to the Cyprob. In fact matters got worse since the coup and invasion of 1974.
All these years I should also be remembering my grandfather too, who passed away exactly a year fater the troubles began on the 21st December 1964 in London. Like many Cypriots, Greek and Turkish who pass away in a foreign land, a refugee never to see their homes again. I will say a prayer for all of them. Perhaps some of you will join me.


Human feelings do touch me a lot dear Deniz, I 'm all with you in this.
I have my own views about our existence in this world, so I won't pray, yet I will feel the warmth in your heart when you do.

Speaking of murdered people have you ever met one of those who killed other people in Cyprus? I did meet some over time. They all have something in common:Their consciousness turned them into wreckage.
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:50 pm

Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Thank you ,Deniz for the timely reminder...
I will never forget the final days or weeks of December,1963....As a 12 year old I was hiding a handgranade in my pocket,waiting to blow up my mother and sisters,and myself of course,should the GC irregulars came to the door instead of my father who was fighting them off at the walls of the old city... :(
Not a particularly pleasant memory!!!


Which is this city that you were forcing GCs off?

Nicosia! It was around the time the Turkish Officer's wife and children were slain at Kumsal!!!
Dont worry,Sotos,even I couldnt make up a story like this! :(

And I said "fighting them off" not "forcing them off"...There is a big difference....
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:54 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:21st December arrives again. A date which gets me thinking. I always remember the terrible events of 21st December 1963. Now we are in 2011, and still no solution to the Cyprob. In fact matters got worse since the coup and invasion of 1974.
All these years I should also be remembering my grandfather too, who passed away exactly a year fater the troubles began on the 21st December 1964 in London. Like many Cypriots, Greek and Turkish who pass away in a foreign land, a refugee never to see their homes again. I will say a prayer for all of them. Perhaps some of you will join me.


Human feelings do touch me a lot dear Deniz, I 'm all with you in this.
I have my own views about our existence in this world, so I won't pray, yet I will feel the warmth in your heart when you do.

Speaking of murdered people have you ever met one of those who killed other people in Cyprus? I did meet some over time. They all have something in common:Their consciousness turned them into wreckage.

You are right,dear Pyro...I met only one,and he was a human wreck...
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:52 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:21st December arrives again. A date which gets me thinking. I always remember the terrible events of 21st December 1963. Now we are in 2011, and still no solution to the Cyprob. In fact matters got worse since the coup and invasion of 1974.
All these years I should also be remembering my grandfather too, who passed away exactly a year fater the troubles began on the 21st December 1964 in London. Like many Cypriots, Greek and Turkish who pass away in a foreign land, a refugee never to see their homes again. I will say a prayer for all of them. Perhaps some of you will join me.


Human feelings do touch me a lot dear Deniz, I 'm all with you in this.
I have my own views about our existence in this world, so I won't pray, yet I will feel the warmth in your heart when you do.

Speaking of murdered people have you ever met one of those who killed other people in Cyprus? I did meet some over time. They all have something in common:Their consciousness turned them into wreckage.


Who knows Pyro? These people are all protected. They do not wear a 'badge of 'dis-honour' saying,' look at me, İ am a murderer.' what conscience Pyro? They have none.
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Re: Not a New Topic.

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:54 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Thank you ,Deniz for the timely reminder...
I will never forget the final days or weeks of December,1963....As a 12 year old I was hiding a handgranade in my pocket,waiting to blow up my mother and sisters,and myself of course,should the GC irregulars came to the door instead of my father who was fighting them off at the walls of the old city... :(
Not a particularly pleasant memory!!!


Which is this city that you were forcing GCs off?

Nicosia! It was around the time the Turkish Officer's wife and children were slain at Kumsal!!!
Dont worry,Sotos,even I couldnt make up a story like this! :(

And I said "fighting them off" not "forcing them off"...There is a big difference....


Makes no difference to Sotos. He should stick to İT, which he is brilliant at!
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