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[bill cobbett]

As most will know the French Government will be voting on recognising the Armenian genocide by Turkey this Thursday 22nd December.

Massive amount of bluster from the successor regime that is Turkey threatening France with "serious repercussions".

Turkey has threatened to withdraw its Ambassador to Paris.

Very ominously, various business interests in Turkey have threatened that the vote may damage French companies with investments in Turkey.

Oh and what has Erdie got to say? Well Mad Dog Erdogan is reported as saying... "“there will be grave consequences if the bill is adopted.”

... and Erdogan makes this most remarkable claim, that France was responsible for... "for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994."

You just couldn't make it up could you???

[Hermes]

Coincidence?

French military airplane violated Turkey’s airspace on Dec. 17, the Turkish armed forces said. The C-160 cargo plane flew unauthorized for three minutes over an area of the Aegean to Turkey’s southwest, the military General Staff in Ankara said in a statement on its website. Turkey’s military said it informed the Foreign Ministry of the breach, Bloomberg reported.

French military airplane violates Turkey’s airspace

[GreekIslandGirl]

As most will know the French Government will be voting on recognising the Armenian genocide by Turkey this Thursday 22nd December.

Massive amount of bluster from the successor regime that is Turkey threatening France with "serious repercussions".

Turkey has threatened to withdraw its Ambassador to Paris.

Very ominously, various business interests in Turkey have threatened that the vote may damage French companies with investments in Turkey.

Oh and what has Erdie got to say? Well Mad Dog Erdogan is reported as saying... "“there will be grave consequences if the bill is adopted.”

... and Erdogan makes this most remarkable claim, that France was responsible for... "for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994."

You just couldn't make it up could you???

Vive La France!

[bill cobbett]

Oooooh, well spotted Hermes.

A very, very convenient and timely coincidence... ...

[kimon07]

The French Parliament has already recognized the Armenian Genocide some years back. Now they are about to pass a law criminalizing the public denial of the Genocide. This is what it is all about now.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-266143- ... ronts.html

[Kikapu]

I don't know why Turkey's politicians and Business leaders think they can use threats and warnings against what legislation France chooses to pass, specially what the French deem to believe what they want to do, is to keep the Armenian Genocide history alive, just like what most nations have done with the Holocaust of the Jews in the hands of the Nazi Germany. Can you imagine France actually giving into Turkey's demands and cancel the voting on the subject, for them to be seen as beaten by Turkey on French soil. This will be a political suicide for Sarkozy to bend to Turkey's demands, specially all the insults and arrogance shown by Turkish Politicians as of late towards the EU.

What difference does it makes to Turkey whether or not it is a crime to deny Armenian Genocide in France when the French have already accept that the Armenian Genocide took place. Isn't it too late to worry about semantics at this point from Turkey's point of view? Why hasn't Turkey taken the initiative for the last couple of decades to convince the world that no such crime took place in 1915 by coming forward with all the records of the past to be examined by anyone who would wish to do so, and if Turkey believes such a crime took place, then accept the past bad deeds done under the Ottoman Ruler and move on. No one is saying Modern Turkey is guilty of any Genocide, so why is Modern Turkey tying to protect the Ottoman Sultans who are already dead and gone.

If Turkey had a real Democracy where Journalist can write about the Armenian Genocide openly without being killed or thrown into jail, perhaps France wouldn't have to go the extra mile to keep the Armenian Genocide alive and on the surface , unlike what Turkey wants to do, which is to kill and bury it. Perhaps things will be different once Turkey become a True Democracy sometime in the future. One can only wish and hope!

Gül’s call falls on Sarkozy’s deaf ears
ANKARA
December/20/2011

In an unprecedented move that was perceived as an act of disrespectfulness by Turkey, French President Nicolas Sarkozy refused to talk to the Turkish President Abdullah Gül on the phone, as the latter attempted to call him to personally to convey his message over the Armenian ‘genocide’ denial bill to be voted Thursday in the French parliament.

The Elysée Palace was notified Monday morning that Gül would like to talk to Sarkozy in person, but the request was not met, leading Gül to issue a written statement slamming the bill, sources from the president’s office said. “We have not received a reply from Sarkozy for the last two days,” one source said. “Sarkozy did not have the courage to talk to Gül on the issue.”

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/guls-c ... sCatID=338

[bill cobbett]

Yes, well said boys and girl... if can just publicly acknowledge the error in the OP please. The Genocide by Turkey's previous regime is recognised in France and the vote is about now going further and criminalising the denial in public. Ta Kimon.

[Hermes]

Unfortunately, Turkey's thuggish attempts to cover up its genocidal past is not new. Here is an article from 2009 by the late, lamented Christopher Hitchens...

Telling the Truth About the Armenian Genocide

Genocide had not been coined in 1915, but the U.S. ambassador in Constantinople, Henry Morgenthau, employed a term that was in some ways more graphic. In his urgent reports to the State Department, conveying on-the-spot dispatches from his consuls, especially in the provinces of Van and Harput, he described the systematic slaughter of the Armenians as "race murder." A vast archive of evidence exists to support this claim. But every year, the deniers and euphemists set to work again ...

[Lordo]

Does anybody have a figure for how many Algerians were killed by the French? Is the 1.5 Million figure accurate?

[kimon07]

Does anybody have a figure for how many Algerians were killed by the French? Is the 1.5 Million figure accurate?

Well, why don't you pass a similar bill in your Parliament about that?
Fair is fair! And then pass a similar bill about British genocides and so on and so forth. Why not?