bill cobbett wrote:Kikapu wrote:Get Real! wrote:France to Recognise Turkish Genocide of Armenians?
Israel is also warming up to the idea. It doesn't look like a pleasant year for Turkey this 2012...
No doubt the USA will follow suit, running up to the elections next year.
Kikapu a question please ... now you mention the USA... has this massive over-reaction we've seen in the last few days from Turkey got something to do with sending a message to the USA?????
Hi Bill,
Sorry for the delay in responding to your question.
I don't know the answer to your specific question other than to say, that these days, Turkey is screaming loud to everyone who dares to challenge her, but who's listening really. Surely not Sarkozy, despite repeated phone calls from Gül. Turkey is becoming the toothless tiger really. A lot of growling, sabra rattling, threats, promises of threats but in the end, has no bite, so other countries are doing what they need to do and are doing it when they are good and ready regardless what Turkey says or wants. Turkey is not the military or the economic superpower that she think she is. Erdogan has been able to reach out to Obama often, but in the end, Congress answers to their own constituents and not to Obama, and in the public eye, Turkey is not the most liked nation as far as your average American is concerned, just because Turkey was not reliable when American needed her the most during the Iraq war, which may have resulted in costing American lives as well as extra cost, and now that the Americans are virtually out of Iraq, the American people will have even less desire to be nice to Turkey, despite the Missile Defence Radar to be placed in eastern Turkey. I can see the Republicans using the "Armenian Genocide card" in the runoff to the elections next year, which Obama will be reminded, that he was for the Armenian Genocide before he was elected and has since been very quiet about it, therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama himself will not push for it's passage in the lover house next year. What is Turkey going to do about it, another than what she did with France, is nothing of any significance, unless Turkey stops trading with the world in the end, because by 2015 on the 100th year anniversary of the Armenian Genocide, many countries will support it.
Here is an article I came across the other day that may be of interest to you to read.
Now, the Armenians are making us walk the ‘Deportation March’Let’s be realistic now.
Armenians are almost approaching the end in their genocide claims. They have made the world accept their claims by working continuously like industrious ants for 100 years. While they were explaining their pain and what they had to live through, we did not even discuss among ourselves what had happened. We buried our heads in the sand and have reached these days. We could not reply in a persuasive manner. We lost the case.
We are not aware but the Armenians are exiling us. This time they are making us walk the “Deportation March.”
They have lined us up in front of the international public and making us walk. They are replicating in a different way what we had done 100 years ago. Whichever country’s Parliament we are passing by, we are stigmatized as “genocide criminal” with our heads bowed.
Every time we are stigmatized, we are angry and have a fit, then after a while, we are calm again and act as if nothing has happened. Maybe we want to forget. Whereas this “deportation walk” we chose to ignore continues and it will reach its most important stop in 2015. According to Armenians, they will have the last word on the 100th anniversary of the genocide.
The genocide claims that have been accepted in the Parliaments of 19 countries will most importantly be passed in the United States Congress. After that, the others will come easily.
Now, you will see, the fight with France will be forgotten after a while; we will focus on other issues.
At this point, it is impossible to stop the course of events by writing books and filming documentaries. From now on, we should either take such bold steps as to surprise the international public and make them doubt the Armenian allegations or dare being stigmatized with genocide and start planning its measures beginning now.
What I wonder the most now is whether Ankara has any medium or long-term preparations on the topic, or whether or not there is a working group. If there is one, I will both be surprised and pleased. If there is not, I would not be surprised. I would just say, “Our typical stance” and bow to fate. But if protests and loud voices start after the inevitable, then let alone the international public, even I would not believe them.
Armenians will expose us as genocide criminals to the whole world with our submitted postures and also make us continue with our “Deportation March.”
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/now-th ... sCatID=405
Since the bill has not yet been enacted, Turkey will make the utmost effort to prevent the law from becoming law....".
