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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:31 pm

With two new states under a federal structure means that like a Spaniard moving to the UK GCs and TCs will have to wait 5 years before gaining the right to residency otherwise no deal...before you get your knickers a twist or drop your dentures you can count this as a 5 year derogation.

If they are undesirables and have committed crimes in a state then they should not be allowed residency of another state.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:With two new states under a federal structure means that like a Spaniard moving to the UK GCs and TCs will have to wait 5 years before gaining the right to residency otherwise no deal...before you get your knickers a twist or drop your dentures you can count this as a 5 year derogation.

If they are undesirables and have committed crimes in a state then they should not be allowed residency of another state.


SINGLE CY CITIZENSHIP is the agreement in the High Level Agreements, in Public Statements by Talat and Pres X (May 2008?) and has been said hundreds of times, so your Spanish chap in GB analogy is rubbeeeeeeesh.

Again you freely chose the term "EU CRITERIA" and "EU criteria" is that CY Nationals will be able to move freely and reside where they choose from Day One (leaving aside an initial transitional period).

Again on your "undesirables" and those who have "committed crimes in a state"... way outside EU Criteria which have no restrictions whatsoever on these.

... and it is still none of yours if wear dentures, frilly knickers and dresses.

(Seasonal best wishes to you and yours by the way)
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:44 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:With two new states under a federal structure means that like a Spaniard moving to the UK GCs and TCs will have to wait 5 years before gaining the right to residency otherwise no deal...before you get your knickers a twist or drop your dentures you can count this as a 5 year derogation.

If they are undesirables and have committed crimes in a state then they should not be allowed residency of another state.


SINGLE CY CITIZENSHIP is the agreement in the High Level Agreements, in Public Statements by Talat and Pres X (May 2008?) and has been said hundreds of times, so your Spanish chap in GB analogy is rubbeeeeeeesh.

Again you freely chose the term "EU CRITERIA" and "EU criteria" is that CY Nationals will be able to move freely and reside where they choose from Day One (leaving aside an initial transitional period).

Again on your "undesirables" and those who have "committed crimes in a state"... way outside EU Criteria which have no restrictions whatsoever on these.

... and it is still none of yours if wear dentures, frilly knickers and dresses.

(Seasonal best wishes to you and yours by the way)


Merry christmas,a happy and healthy new year to you and yours.

Then freedom of movement and settlement together with a 5 year derogation on residency rights would solve the problem.

Do we agree?
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby humanist » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:51 pm

aaawww am teary at the Christmas cheers between you two.

LOL

Merry Christmas Mr cobett may you and you family have a great day and may the new year bring you happiness and joy and freedom for your beloved Cyprus.

VP wishing you all seasonal best of luck and a happy NY ahead for you and your family and may you bring freedom to our Cyprus through good will and love.

To everyone else Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Seasons wishes with a great year ahead.

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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:06 pm

humanist wrote:aaawww am teary at the Christmas cheers between you two.

LOL

Merry Christmas Mr cobett may you and you family have a great day and may the new year bring you happiness and joy and freedom for your beloved Cyprus.

VP wishing you all seasonal best of luck and a happy NY ahead for you and your family and may you bring freedom to our Cyprus through good will and love.

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Ooooh Thank you A, very nice post,.... meh ebbeesees file.

VP.... yes, we would have a very nice convergence if you would confirm that the 5 years was an initial derogation at the start of the settlement process, so that after this transitional 5 year period there would be no further restrictions on CY Nationals moving and residing freely as of right.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby humanist » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:24 pm

Sounds fair and workable to me ;)
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:25 pm

humanist wrote:Sounds fair and workable to me ;)


yes, wonder whether VP will confirm he likes the idea as well.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:53 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
humanist wrote:aaawww am teary at the Christmas cheers between you two.

LOL

Merry Christmas Mr cobett may you and you family have a great day and may the new year bring you happiness and joy and freedom for your beloved Cyprus.

VP wishing you all seasonal best of luck and a happy NY ahead for you and your family and may you bring freedom to our Cyprus through good will and love.

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Ooooh Thank you A, very nice post,.... meh ebbeesees file.

VP.... yes, we would have a very nice convergence if you would confirm that the 5 years was an initial derogation at the start of the settlement process, so that after this transitional 5 year period there would be no further restrictions on CY Nationals moving and residing freely as of right.


We have take off..... 8)
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:56 pm

humanist wrote:aaawww am teary at the Christmas cheers between you two.

LOL

Merry Christmas Mr cobett may you and you family have a great day and may the new year bring you happiness and joy and freedom for your beloved Cyprus.

VP wishing you all seasonal best of luck and a happy NY ahead for you and your family and may you bring freedom to our Cyprus through good will and love.

To everyone else Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Seasons wishes with a great year ahead.

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Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones, may 2012 enlighten you and all GCs to find it in yourselves to see that TCs do want a solution without placing themselves at the mercy of GCs in a GC state which reduces them to minority status.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby humanist » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:58 pm

VP you are a minority both with the settler state you have created as well as with a reunified Cyprus that you may end up with. However, your rights as EU citizens will be upheld and protected. You can't change the numbers other than trough yet another genocide.
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