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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


Totally agree this should be the case in both constituent states.


What is it that you are agreeing to exactly?

These by any chance. If so, why do you still support an AP type of a settlement? :?

Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates.


That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist.


One man one vote in their respective constitute states.


Sorry! A one liner from you does not give us an exact understanding in what you write and mean. Why don't you give us a full detailed explanation as to what "One man one vote" means to you as you incorporate the above 2 quotes I gave you.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:13 pm

North State = Person with voting right in this state = 1vote = MP}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- }United Cyprus
South State = Person with voting right in this state = 1vote = MP}

Simple enough for you Kikapoo?
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:32 pm

The answer is right in front of us. In the constitution we can have laws that prohibit a resident from doing anything legally. So your worries are over, within the EU the GCs can live in the north set up businesses and pay taxes but they don't have to be able to vote. So your worries of being swamped by GCs on TRoC parliament are over. solution is here, thank god.

GRoC has shown us the way.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:37 pm

Lordo wrote:The answer is right in front of us. In the constitution we can have laws that prohibit a resident from doing anything legally. So your worries are over, within the EU the GCs can live in the north set up businesses and pay taxes but they don't have to be able to vote. So your worries of being swamped by GCs on TRoC parliament are over. solution is here, thank god.

GRoC has shown us the way.


Pollocks.

What was it the Rebelling Yanks used to say...?

No Taxation without Representation.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:41 pm

Really, what about our Mr Aziz, does he not pay tax, how come he is allowed no representation?

It is possible. As we can plainly see?

You got your glasses on?

So Jackson Pollocks to you to.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:03 pm

Lordo wrote:The answer is right in front of us. In the constitution we can have laws that prohibit a resident from doing anything legally. So your worries are over, within the EU the GCs can live in the north set up businesses and pay taxes but they don't have to be able to vote. So your worries of being swamped by GCs on TRoC parliament are over. solution is here, thank god.

GRoC has shown us the way.

Welcome back YFronts! :lol:
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:11 pm

Lordo wrote:Really, what about our Mr Aziz, does he not pay tax, how come he is allowed no representation?

It is possible. As we can plainly see?

You got your glasses on?

So Jackson Pollocks to you to.


Listen you scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot...

Have you not bothered to read Pyro's definitive post above on the matter of Mr Aziz?

What more do you want to admit you were wrong and very quick not only to condemn the Republic in this affair, but to condemn the whole body of Human Rights Laws?

Even if Mr Aziz himself blessed us with a visit and posted his version of events on CF, you wouldn't be happy would you???
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby humanist » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:15 pm

Don't try so hard to look stupid my friend. Read VERY CAREFULLY Imbrahim Asizes complain to the ECHR and answer if you agree with him or not. 99.999% of the Kypreoi DO AGREE.
Now is the the fault of the Kypreoi that the constitution imposed upon us with the 1960 agreements is RACIST and SEGREGATIONAL?
Do you agree with common elections on one list for ALL CYPRIOTS yes or no?
I have replaced the terms GC & TC with Kypreos and Kibrisli as in our native languages.Turkey will handle the occupied to the EU and get out and clear.


Well my apologies for not being as clever as some ultra inteligencia. LOL

There is no doubt that the 1960'a agreement was imposed upon the Cypriots and it is RACIST and SEGREGATIONAL, just like the Anan Plan that the majority of Cypriots in the occupied area voted for (I wonder why?)

I agree for a common electroral role for all Cypriots where one person equals one vote. SO there my answer.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:25 pm

humanist wrote:
Don't try so hard to look stupid my friend. Read VERY CAREFULLY Imbrahim Asizes complain to the ECHR and answer if you agree with him or not. 99.999% of the Kypreoi DO AGREE.
Now is the the fault of the Kypreoi that the constitution imposed upon us with the 1960 agreements is RACIST and SEGREGATIONAL?
Do you agree with common elections on one list for ALL CYPRIOTS yes or no?
I have replaced the terms GC & TC with Kypreos and Kibrisli as in our native languages.Turkey will handle the occupied to the EU and get out and clear.


Well my apologies for not being as clever as some ultra inteligencia. LOL

There is no doubt that the 1960'a agreement was imposed upon the Cypriots and it is RACIST and SEGREGATIONAL, just like the Anan Plan that the majority of Cypriots in the occupied area voted for (I wonder why?)

I agree for a common electroral role for all Cypriots where one person equals one vote. SO there my answer.


Well said as long as you vote on your side and I vote on mine. :wink:
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:38 am

Ibrahim Aziz is a true Cypriot..He has been fighting for a united Cyprus,one person one vote,democratic principles and human rights,before some of you were even born...He deserves our respect and admiration...However he is like Don Quixote charging at the windmills...What he wants will never be achieved thanks to the bloody minded fascist nationalists like those frequently appearing on CF,and the past and present efforts of certain foreign powers ...Mr Aziz would do better if he concentrated his energies on achieving feasible solutions to our little problem,which is showing every sign of dragging on forever... :(
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