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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:23 am

Lordo wrote:
humanist wrote:halil
let and see what AKEL will say about it ? i am sure all votes were going to AKEL


I had to re-read the post Apologies halil.

Bottom line is if these people are living in the RoC and identify as Cypriot they should be allowed to vote. Aziz should take his case to ECHR and I hope he is successful.

B52 TC's in the free area have obviously made a decision to either stay in the Free area and / or identify as Cypriot. They do not hold us hostage or violate our human rights. I think the distinction needs to be made clear.

Christofias then needs to ensure all Cypriot citizens are given equal rights. he then needs to set up a meeting with Ban Ki Moon and give him the facts. Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974, The UN has condemned this action and the TC leader is not willing to move towards Reunification, therefore we need assistance and support just like they have given to Afghanistan to free the nation from a Third nations military occupation.

He should also stop meeting at the UN w/ Eroglu that will piss the Turks off to the maxxxxx

But he did this before and all the RoC got was a small fine and cost paid to Mr Aziz. Is this the kind of European rights that will protect all our citizens. All those here who go on about how bad Annan plan was for not respecting Greek Cypriot's Human rights should hang their heads in shame, instead they get cocky drunk on emotion of hatred like a headless chicken that has just lost its head. Have you ever seen one or did you think chickens in supermarkets grow on trees.


Don't try so hard to look stupid my friend. Read VERY CAREFULLY Imbrahim Asizes complain to the ECHR and answer if you agree with him or not. 99.999% of the Kypreoi DO AGREE.
Now is the the fault of the Kypreoi that the constitution imposed upon us with the 1960 agreements is RACIST and SEGREGATIONAL?
Do you agree with common elections on one list for ALL CYPRIOTS yes or no?
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:27 am

Furthemore do you understand that Imbrahim Asiz supports a one man one vote, united Cyprus without separation between Kibrislis and Kibreoi?
I really doubt you do....
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:31 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Furthemore do you understand that Imbrahim Asiz supports a one man one vote, united Cyprus without separation between Kibrislis and Kibreoi?
I really doubt you do....


And get this treatment from his government for his effort. Tut tut.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:36 am

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Furthemore do you understand that Imbrahim Asiz supports a one man one vote, united Cyprus without separation between Kibrislis and Kibreoi?
I really doubt you do....


And get this treatment from his government for his effort. Tut tut.


What treatment??? I am going to ROTFL now. Read my first message Maybe you will understand better :lol: :lol: :lol:
The man is a personal advisor to Christofias for your information.
You don't know what you are talking about :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:47 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


So there we have it, thanks to Pyro for getting to the bottom of this affair. When CF chooses to be good, it is sooooo good. Wait a day or two and one of us will get to the bottom of things and bring out the truth.

From Pyro's definitive contribution, the Republic has taken steps to comply with the ECHR judgment in the Aziz matter of a few years ago, so Mr Aziz will be wasting time with a referral to the ECHR, cos it'll be deemed that he has had "an effective say" in the elections. It is of course to be regretted that the remedy had to be along the lines of the old contrived distinctions, with the old "racist" divisions and respect to Mr Aziz for again highlighting these "racist" distinctions.

So there doesn't seem to be anything else to be said other than Halil, Lordo et al coming up with modifications of their posts above please???
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Hermes » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:08 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

Fine post by Pyrpolizer. Thanks for explaining the facts behind this case. Such a pity some TC forumers thought they could score cheap political points WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS. Shame on them all. Especially Halil who has lately become a mouthpiece for some silly propaganda.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:33 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


Totally agree this should be the case in both constituent states.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


Totally agree this should be the case in both constituent states.


What is it that you are agreeing to exactly?

These by any chance. If so, why do you still support an AP type of a settlement? :?

Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates.


That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


Totally agree this should be the case in both constituent states.


What is it that you are agreeing to exactly?

These by any chance. If so, why do you still support an AP type of a settlement? :?

Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates.


That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist.


One man one vote in their respective constitute states.
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Re: God Bless you....Ibrahim Aziz Efendi.....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:08 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Yes we got used to misinformation in this forum.
HERE's THE TRUTH BEHIND THE STORY

From here:
http://www.elections2011.pio.gov.cy/pli ... voters.htm

533,778 registered voters (including 569 Kibrislis-compared to about 300 in 2006) +12,333 EU citizens.
Also from the same page :ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLAGE OF POTAMIA THERE WILL BE ELECTIONS FOR 2 SEPARATE MUNICIPAL COUNCILS one Kibrisli and one for Kypreoi joined in a form of a union to one Municipal Council.

Other information from here:
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters.htm
http://www.ekloges2011.gov.cy/turkish_voters_tr.htm


In Potamia there have been 25 Registered Kibrisli voters. HOWEVER the few Kibrislis living there have agreed between them in advance and they named one person ONLY for Muhtar + 4 others for Municipal members. All of them were nominated without elections because there were no other candidates, and all positions were filled up.
The same happened in MANY other small Kypreoi villages as well... It is not unusual.. Therefore the Kibrisli voters in Potamia including the very respactable person Mr Imbrahim Asiz, did not have the chance to vote...

Imbrahim Azis'es ACTUAL complain is similar to his complain that he filed at the ECHR a few years ago. That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist. And I fully agree with him. He went on to comment if this is what we really want in Cyprus?
Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates. FYI there are about 380 Registered Kypreoi voters in Potamia also.

Does VP, Halil et al agree with him yes or no?


Totally agree this should be the case in both constituent states.


What is it that you are agreeing to exactly?

These by any chance. If so, why do you still support an AP type of a settlement? :?

Aziz says both Kibrislis and Kypreoi and EU nationals should be able to vote together for all the candidates.


That separation of the people in Cyprus between Kibrislis and Kypreoi is racist.


One man one vote in their respective constitute states.


With or without restrictions on settlement? :wink: :lol: :lol:

With or without permanent derrogations? :shock:
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