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[Viewpoint]

VP you are a minority both with the settler state you have created as well as with a reunified Cyprus that you may end up with. However, your rights as EU citizens will be upheld and protected. You can't change the numbers other than trough yet another genocide.

We have no problem becoming a minority with Turks because we have Turkish origins but we will never ever accept becoming a minority amongst GCs in a GC state, thats why we support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

[bill cobbett]

aaawww am teary at the Christmas cheers between you two.

LOL

Merry Christmas Mr cobett may you and you family have a great day and may the new year bring you happiness and joy and freedom for your beloved Cyprus.

VP wishing you all seasonal best of luck and a happy NY ahead for you and your family and may you bring freedom to our Cyprus through good will and love.

To everyone else Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Seasons wishes with a great year ahead.

Australia Loves You

Ooooh Thank you A, very nice post,.... meh ebbeesees file.

VP.... yes, we would have a very nice convergence if you would confirm that the 5 years was an initial derogation at the start of the settlement process, so that after this transitional 5 year period there would be no further restrictions on CY Nationals moving and residing freely as of right.

We have take off.....

Oooooh , nicey, nice, nice ... perhaps in the New Year, we can move on to see if we can find convergences in other areas VP?

[Kikapu]

Finally the penny has dropped, if a person resides in state A for over 5 years I support that they should apply to .the said state for permanent residency permit and these should be limited like the EU example in Malta

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You are once again trying to mislead people with your infamous "Malta Model" baloney.

How many more times do I need to tell you, that the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta, but to limit the number of EU Citizens that can move to Malta, which required them first to obtain a job offer in Malta before moving there. You cannot ask for derogation to put a limit on Cypriots to violate their Freedom of Movement within the island. They will have the right to move anyplace they want and as citizens of Cyprus, they will be able to vote respectively in local elections, statewide elections and nationwide elections from wherever they live, as well as run for office. You cannot impose an apartheid type of system through the EU derogation, however, Cyprus will be able to use the Malta model against Turkey in the future if and when they will ever become an EU member, most probably in my next lifetime!

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu

How many more times do I need to tell you, that the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta, but to limit the number of EU Citizens that can move to Malta, which required them first to obtain a job offer in Malta before moving there. You cannot ask for derogation to put a limit on Cypriots to violate their Freedom of Movement within the island. They will have the right to move anyplace they want and as citizens of Cyprus, they will be able to vote respectively in local elections, statewide elections and nationwide elections from wherever they live, as well as run for office. You cannot impose an apartheid type of system through the EU derogation, however, Cyprus will be able to use the Malta model against Turkey in the future if and when they will ever become an EU member, most probably in my next lifetime!

You are out of touch we have agreed this with Bill ask him why he is not opposed like you.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

You are one crazy bastard.

[bill cobbett]

Kikapu

How many more times do I need to tell you, that the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta, but to limit the number of EU Citizens that can move to Malta, which required them first to obtain a job offer in Malta before moving there. You cannot ask for derogation to put a limit on Cypriots to violate their Freedom of Movement within the island. They will have the right to move anyplace they want and as citizens of Cyprus, they will be able to vote respectively in local elections, statewide elections and nationwide elections from wherever they live, as well as run for office. You cannot impose an apartheid type of system through the EU derogation, however, Cyprus will be able to use the Malta model against Turkey in the future if and when they will ever become an EU member, most probably in my next lifetime!

You are out of touch we have agreed this with Bill ask him why he is not opposed like you.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

You are one crazy bastard.

Yes, a temporary period of derogation of 5 years from Settlement Day is not unreasonable. Suspect we would all agree that in practise very few people would relocate anyway, from one zone to the other, although there may be more movement in to the southern zone ... well there def won't be a mad rush to move in next door to VP from Day 1.

The EU will prob give as many temporary derogations as the settlement needs, up to say the initial 5 years again, but no perm derogations.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu

How many more times do I need to tell you, that the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta, but to limit the number of EU Citizens that can move to Malta, which required them first to obtain a job offer in Malta before moving there. You cannot ask for derogation to put a limit on Cypriots to violate their Freedom of Movement within the island. They will have the right to move anyplace they want and as citizens of Cyprus, they will be able to vote respectively in local elections, statewide elections and nationwide elections from wherever they live, as well as run for office. You cannot impose an apartheid type of system through the EU derogation, however, Cyprus will be able to use the Malta model against Turkey in the future if and when they will ever become an EU member, most probably in my next lifetime!

You are out of touch we have agreed this with Bill ask him why he is not opposed like you.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

You are one crazy bastard.

Yes, a temporary period of derogation of 5 years from Settlement Day is not unreasonable. Suspect we would all agree that in practise very few people would relocate anyway, from one zone to the other, although there may be more movement in to the southern zone ... well there def won't be a mad rush to move in next door to VP from Day 1.

The EU will prob give as many temporary derogations as the settlement needs, up to say the initial 5 years again, but no perm derogations.

Thanks Bill .....and over to Kikapu......

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

How many more times do I need to tell you, that the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta, but to limit the number of EU Citizens that can move to Malta, which required them first to obtain a job offer in Malta before moving there. You cannot ask for derogation to put a limit on Cypriots to violate their Freedom of Movement within the island. They will have the right to move anyplace they want and as citizens of Cyprus, they will be able to vote respectively in local elections, statewide elections and nationwide elections from wherever they live, as well as run for office. You cannot impose an apartheid type of system through the EU derogation, however, Cyprus will be able to use the Malta model against Turkey in the future if and when they will ever become an EU member, most probably in my next lifetime!

You are out of touch we have agreed this with Bill ask him why he is not opposed like you.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

You are one crazy bastard.

Yes, a temporary period of derogation of 5 years from Settlement Day is not unreasonable. Suspect we would all agree that in practise very few people would relocate anyway, from one zone to the other, although there may be more movement in to the southern zone ... well there def won't be a mad rush to move in next door to VP from Day 1.

The EU will prob give as many temporary derogations as the settlement needs, up to say the initial 5 years again, but no perm derogations.

Thanks Bill .....and over to Kikapu......

"Malta Model" is not a derogation against it's citizens but against EU Citizens. What part of this do you not understand?

[Get Real!]

...the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta,...

Talking about the freedom of movement in Malta is like talking about the freedom of movement in a bedroom closet!

[Kikapu]

...the Malta derogation model was not for it's own Maltese citizens to try and violate their Freedom of Movement within Malta,...

Talking about the freedom of movement in Malta is like talking about the freedom of movement in a bedroom closet!

Yes, quite!

[Kikapu]

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not the same "Viewpoint" person who left CF for couple of months before coming back to the CF with a grand announcement. I can tell from the method of your writings as well as your "forgetfulness" of previously discussed topics, no matter how hard you may try to disguise yourself to make us believe that you are a same person under the title of "Viewpoint". We all know that "Viewpoint" is not a person, but rather a propaganda entity for the "trnc" with different versions of "Viewpoints" coming and going. I believe you are now the VP 3.0 version to have appeared here on the CF in the last 5 years or so.

You are one crazy bastard.

What else can you say when you are found out?

Can you explain to us why it was necessary for you to make a grand announcement that "Viewpoint" was back on the forum after couple of months of absence. After all, you never mentioned anything about leaving the forum for any period of time, so it was not as if you were kicked off the forum by the Admin. So what was with all the grandiose re-entry to the forum if it wasn't for us to think old VP 2.0 version was now back again, when in fact, we had a new VP 3.0 version instead. I know, because I can tell from the different style of writing from VP 2.0 version vs. VP 3.0 version.