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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Hermes » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:15 am

Viewpoint wrote:the EU will not hand the north to you GCs on a platter you lost any chance you had when the talks collapse next year, they have experienced your intransigence first hand and now know exactly what they are dealing with... greedy spoilt brats of Europe.


This is pathetic, VP. Even by your usual standards. Firstly, the occupied areas are EU territory already by virtue of the RoC. The EU is not going to hand its own territory over to a foreign invader. As for "intransigence" have you forgotten what Merkel said about Turkey's intransigence in the talks? Do you not remember Erdogan's visit to the occupied areas? Have you not read the EU's lack-of-progress report on Turkey? Have you not noticed the universal condemnation of Turkey's threats against Cyprus? Are you not aware of the gas discoveries? Cyprus's alliance with Israel? That Cyprus is about to be EU President.

The GCs are the good guys these days. And Turkey is a troublemaker and regional pain-in-the-butt. As for the "greedy spoilt brats" have you forgotten that's what Erdogan called the Turkish Cypriot protesters? Do you think those spoilt brats have forgotten what Erdogan thinks of them?

I know it was Turkey's plan for the talks to collapse and then blame the GCs and hope for recognition. But that plan went down the toilet ages ago. There's no point in your coming on here and pretending that the EU is going to aid Turkey in partitioning the island. I'm afraid you are completely and utterly deluded.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby kurupetos » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:17 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:bravo kikapu, "Motherland Traitors", i like that.

...a good definition for the intolerant that are not Greek and Turk, but "Greek" and "Turk".


repulse can you not see that we cannot agree on anything thats why the talks are heading for failure once again.


Turkey's bravado will continue under Erdogan, he still hopes to get all of Cyprus back, it is on the Continental Shelf that Turkey will now fight for...

Do you seek justice RW?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:33 am

kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:bravo kikapu, "Motherland Traitors", i like that.

...a good definition for the intolerant that are not Greek and Turk, but "Greek" and "Turk".


repulse can you not see that we cannot agree on anything thats why the talks are heading for failure once again.


Turkey's bravado will continue under Erdogan, he still hopes to get all of Cyprus back, it is on the Continental Shelf that Turkey will now fight for...

Do you seek justice RW?


...i seek change where there is Justice, kurupetos.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:38 am

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:the EU will not hand the north to you GCs on a platter you lost any chance you had when the talks collapse next year, they have experienced your intransigence first hand and now know exactly what they are dealing with... greedy spoilt brats of Europe.


This is pathetic, VP. Even by your usual standards. Firstly, the occupied areas are EU territory already by virtue of the RoC. The EU is not going to hand its own territory over to a foreign invader. As for "intransigence" have you forgotten what Merkel said about Turkey's intransigence in the talks? Do you not remember Erdogan's visit to the occupied areas? Have you not read the EU's lack-of-progress report on Turkey? Have you not noticed the universal condemnation of Turkey's threats against Cyprus? Are you not aware of the gas discoveries? Cyprus's alliance with Israel? That Cyprus is about to be EU President.

The GCs are the good guys these days. And Turkey is a troublemaker and regional pain-in-the-butt. As for the "greedy spoilt brats" have you forgotten that's what Erdogan called the Turkish Cypriot protesters? Do you think those spoilt brats have forgotten what Erdogan thinks of them?

I know it was Turkey's plan for the talks to collapse and then blame the GCs and hope for recognition. But that plan went down the toilet ages ago. There's no point in your coming on here and pretending that the EU is going to aid Turkey in partitioning the island. I'm afraid you are completely and utterly deluded.


well said, thank-you Hermes.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby kurupetos » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:59 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:bravo kikapu, "Motherland Traitors", i like that.

...a good definition for the intolerant that are not Greek and Turk, but "Greek" and "Turk".


repulse can you not see that we cannot agree on anything thats why the talks are heading for failure once again.


Turkey's bravado will continue under Erdogan, he still hopes to get all of Cyprus back, it is on the Continental Shelf that Turkey will now fight for...

Do you seek justice RW?


...i seek change where there is Justice, kurupetos.

You are weak then. A weak warrior is soon to become a dead warrior. :wink:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:58 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:the EU will not hand the north to you GCs on a platter you lost any chance you had when the talks collapse next year, they have experienced your intransigence first hand and now know exactly what they are dealing with... greedy spoilt brats of Europe.


This is pathetic, VP. Even by your usual standards. Firstly, the occupied areas are EU territory already by virtue of the RoC. The EU is not going to hand its own territory over to a foreign invader. As for "intransigence" have you forgotten what Merkel said about Turkey's intransigence in the talks? Do you not remember Erdogan's visit to the occupied areas? Have you not read the EU's lack-of-progress report on Turkey? Have you not noticed the universal condemnation of Turkey's threats against Cyprus? Are you not aware of the gas discoveries? Cyprus's alliance with Israel? That Cyprus is about to be EU President.

The GCs are the good guys these days. And Turkey is a troublemaker and regional pain-in-the-butt. As for the "greedy spoilt brats" have you forgotten that's what Erdogan called the Turkish Cypriot protesters? Do you think those spoilt brats have forgotten what Erdogan thinks of them?

I know it was Turkey's plan for the talks to collapse and then blame the GCs and hope for recognition. But that plan went down the toilet ages ago. There's no point in your coming on here and pretending that the EU is going to aid Turkey in partitioning the island. I'm afraid you are completely and utterly deluded.


Herpees you are complicating things for the sake of it, clear the cobwebs from your brain and just answer this one simple question, once the talks have faded into the distance:

Do you think the EU will ignore the TCs leaving them out in the cold when you know what the EU stands for?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:the EU will not hand the north to you GCs on a platter you lost any chance you had when the talks collapse next year, they have experienced your intransigence first hand and now know exactly what they are dealing with... greedy spoilt brats of Europe.


This is pathetic, VP. Even by your usual standards. Firstly, the occupied areas are EU territory already by virtue of the RoC. The EU is not going to hand its own territory over to a foreign invader. As for "intransigence" have you forgotten what Merkel said about Turkey's intransigence in the talks? Do you not remember Erdogan's visit to the occupied areas? Have you not read the EU's lack-of-progress report on Turkey? Have you not noticed the universal condemnation of Turkey's threats against Cyprus? Are you not aware of the gas discoveries? Cyprus's alliance with Israel? That Cyprus is about to be EU President.

The GCs are the good guys these days. And Turkey is a troublemaker and regional pain-in-the-butt. As for the "greedy spoilt brats" have you forgotten that's what Erdogan called the Turkish Cypriot protesters? Do you think those spoilt brats have forgotten what Erdogan thinks of them?

I know it was Turkey's plan for the talks to collapse and then blame the GCs and hope for recognition. But that plan went down the toilet ages ago. There's no point in your coming on here and pretending that the EU is going to aid Turkey in partitioning the island. I'm afraid you are completely and utterly deluded.


Herpees you are complicating things for the sake of it, clear the cobwebs from your brain and just answer this one simple question, one the talks have faded onto the distance:

Do you think the EU will ignore the TCs leaving them out in the cold?


The TCs are not in the cold. The "trnc" is in the cold and will remain so. The TCs are citizens of the RoC and EU Citizens and are free to move to any part of the island or the EU if they do not wish to suffer the consequences of being in the illegal "trnc" with illegal occupation and illegal settlers. If the TCs are choosing to remain in the "trnc" despite the consequences imposed on the "trnc" by the world, then they will then have to live with those consequences and shouldn't expect the EU or anyone else to do anything about it, other than getting Turkey and the illegal settlers out of the north. If the TCs do not want to live with the consequences imposed on the illegal "trnc", then they should accept a settlement based on EU Principles and tell Turkey and the settlers to go back home, specially since you want the EU to help the TCs in the north not to suffer from consequences caused by Turkey and the settlers..
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Lordo » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:58 pm

Are they able to vote for elections in the south if they live in the south and pay their taxes?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Maximus » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:22 am

Viewpoint wrote:Do you think the EU will ignore the TCs leaving them out in the cold when you know what the EU stands for?


Yes, they will tell you to help yourself out from the cold, there is a bombfire in Amsterdam.

Then they will show you a checklist,

You will likely start to work through this checklist one chapter at a time but stop after the first one is done. Once you realise that it is not what you want or what you expected, you pick and choose. Satisfied with what is on the menu you will then likely start to negotiate special terms. By this time, your sniffling and your boogers are dripping so you wipe it right across your cheek. faster than it dries to a crust, you pee yourself. standing in your own urine, you look around and, never mind......
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:47 am

You are weak then. A weak warrior is soon to become a dead warrior.


...i would rather die a Greek than a "Greek"

...i would rather die fighting for the Freedom of Cyprus, than to be a part of the status quo.

you call this weak, i think any other stance is cowardice...
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