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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours, so lets not waste time on the usual GC propaganda that we are thieves, we are sharing what belongs to both of us and dont forget you have the larger portion. May I ask how you know what is being discussed and the negotiating table when they are supposed to be held in secrecy? The only way you can get your property and return ours is through negotiations which due to the intransigence of both sides has shown we cannot agree anything therefore time and time again will produce no solution.

Once the talks end for the umpteenth time each side will go there own way and pursue their own agendas, what we do doesnt concern you one iota and what you do in the south doesnt concern us. Time you started to accept the reality in front of you.


Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours


I have already answered this question for you with the analogy of illegal embezzlement of funds from a company bank account owned by two or more partners, but I guess it doesn't hurt you to peddle the same crap in the hopes that someone other than a Fascist will buy it. :lol:


And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land, but Turkey is with her occupation of the north, so when did Turkey become a partner with the RoC so that she can take any Sovereign and private land of other Cypriots and not be seen as theft? :wink:

Surely if the rest of the world did not see the north as being stolen, surely the north would have been recognised by now. How can you explain that one? :lol:

And one more thing, just because I like punishing you. :lol:

Don't you always say that the RoC/GCs have stolen the RoC government and ALL the benefits and that they are not legitimate? So the question to you is, if the GCs are joint partners with the TCs over everything, then how can you say they stole anything, and the fact that the rest of the world does not agree with you, it must really make you look like an idiot! :lol:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:50 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for.


You don't seem to understand that only ROC citizens living in the occupied areas are actually EU citizens. Settlers are not EU citizens. Indeed the majority of those living in the pseudo-state are not entitled to any kind of EU status or protection. It is the RoC which is a member state of the EU. And that includes its citizens and territory in the occupied areas.

May I ask, what makes you think you're an EU citizen?


I was European well before you.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for.


You don't seem to understand that only ROC citizens living in the occupied areas are actually EU citizens. Settlers are not EU citizens. Indeed the majority of those living in the pseudo-state are not entitled to any kind of EU status or protection. It is the RoC which is a member state of the EU. And that includes its citizens and territory in the occupied areas.

May I ask, what makes you think you're an EU citizen?


I was European well before you.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

So was Hitler, so what? :lol:

You sure don't have European Values, and neither did Hitler? :wink:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:59 pm

Maximus wrote:Its the same story, a fruitless argument which has created a pathology to nowhere and now it is all going to turn 180 in the Turkish Cypriots favour because it is in their best interest to have the talks fail! :roll:

Viewpoint, you are just wanting and needing off the back and efforts of the Greek Cypriots and it seems that you expect everyone to give while you talk about TAKSIM and holding out. Your community has torn the ass hole out of Cyprus and now you are talking of more of the same as the EU is going to help you do it. Its a wild punt but I would not back you, you and your argument is full of sh*t.


If you havent noticed Taksim has physically happened, now the fact that we cannot agree a solution time after time, even a Cypriot one by Cypriots for Cypriots and that you have forced us all into the EU will be the catalyst for developments in the TRNC after the talks come to a halt sometime next year. The EU will not allow the north to remain in the cold due to yet another failed attempt, which in itself is proof yet again that the two sides just do not want or desire unification, the chasm is just to wide to bridge..alternatives will be found which you GCs aint gonna like...watch and learn the EU whom you expected to hand you the solution you demand on a platter will backfire and take measures to bring the TCs in from the cold...Im not saying recognition that needs many more years but with the GCs intransigence maybe not in our lifetime but sometime in the future will be their biggest gift to the north and all the Old and New generation TCs.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for.


You don't seem to understand that only ROC citizens living in the occupied areas are actually EU citizens. Settlers are not EU citizens. Indeed the majority of those living in the pseudo-state are not entitled to any kind of EU status or protection. It is the RoC which is a member state of the EU. And that includes its citizens and territory in the occupied areas.

May I ask, what makes you think you're an EU citizen?


I was European well before you.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

So was Hitler, so what? :lol:

You sure don't have European Values, and neither did Hitler? :wink:


Hitler was never an EU citizen.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:06 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours, so lets not waste time on the usual GC propaganda that we are thieves, we are sharing what belongs to both of us and dont forget you have the larger portion. May I ask how you know what is being discussed and the negotiating table when they are supposed to be held in secrecy? The only way you can get your property and return ours is through negotiations which due to the intransigence of both sides has shown we cannot agree anything therefore time and time again will produce no solution.

Once the talks end for the umpteenth time each side will go there own way and pursue their own agendas, what we do doesnt concern you one iota and what you do in the south doesnt concern us. Time you started to accept the reality in front of you.


Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours


I have already answered this question for you with the analogy of illegal embezzlement of funds from a company bank account owned by two or more partners, but I guess it doesn't hurt you to peddle the same crap in the hopes that someone other than a Fascist will buy it. :lol:


And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land, but Turkey is with her occupation of the north, so when did Turkey become a partner with the RoC so that she can take any Sovereign and private land of other Cypriots and not be seen as theft? :wink:

Surely if the rest of the world did not see the north as being stolen, surely the north would have been recognised by now. How can you explain that one? :lol:

And one more thing, just because I like punishing you. :lol:

Don't you always say that the RoC/GCs have stolen the RoC government and ALL the benefits and that they are not legitimate? So the question to you is, if the GCs are joint partners with the TCs over everything, then how can you say they stole anything, and the fact that the rest of the world does not agree with you, it must really make you look like an idiot! :lol:


That only happens in your mind as we all know it is warped and biased, do the GC share recognition with us? do the TCs share the island with GCs? Now that does make you look exactly what you really are a moron.

Kikapoo quote; "And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land," In itself admission that I am right and you are a moron.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for.


You don't seem to understand that only ROC citizens living in the occupied areas are actually EU citizens. Settlers are not EU citizens. Indeed the majority of those living in the pseudo-state are not entitled to any kind of EU status or protection. It is the RoC which is a member state of the EU. And that includes its citizens and territory in the occupied areas.

May I ask, what makes you think you're an EU citizen?


I was European well before you.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

So was Hitler, so what? :lol:

You sure don't have European Values, and neither did Hitler? :wink:


Hitler was never an EU citizen.


You said you were a "European"! :roll:

But I'm glad that's the ONLY difference you objected to in separating yourself from Hitler, as to whether he was a EU citizen or not! :lol:

Getting incriminating information on yourself is like milking a cow with you. Both hands on your nipples and squeezing them at one tit at a time! :lol:

That's how we get buckets full with you! :lol:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:19 pm

Kikapoo you are very funny today... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: what are you on? or maybe not on?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:23 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours, so lets not waste time on the usual GC propaganda that we are thieves, we are sharing what belongs to both of us and dont forget you have the larger portion. May I ask how you know what is being discussed and the negotiating table when they are supposed to be held in secrecy? The only way you can get your property and return ours is through negotiations which due to the intransigence of both sides has shown we cannot agree anything therefore time and time again will produce no solution.

Once the talks end for the umpteenth time each side will go there own way and pursue their own agendas, what we do doesnt concern you one iota and what you do in the south doesnt concern us. Time you started to accept the reality in front of you.


Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours


I have already answered this question for you with the analogy of illegal embezzlement of funds from a company bank account owned by two or more partners, but I guess it doesn't hurt you to peddle the same crap in the hopes that someone other than a Fascist will buy it. :lol:


And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land, but Turkey is with her occupation of the north, so when did Turkey become a partner with the RoC so that she can take any Sovereign and private land of other Cypriots and not be seen as theft? :wink:

Surely if the rest of the world did not see the north as being stolen, surely the north would have been recognised by now. How can you explain that one? :lol:

And one more thing, just because I like punishing you. :lol:

Don't you always say that the RoC/GCs have stolen the RoC government and ALL the benefits and that they are not legitimate? So the question to you is, if the GCs are joint partners with the TCs over everything, then how can you say they stole anything, and the fact that the rest of the world does not agree with you, it must really make you look like an idiot! :lol:


That only happens in your mind as we all know it is warped and biased, do the GC share recognition with us? do the TCs share the island with GCs? Now that does make you look exactly what you really are a moron.

Kikapoo quote; "And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land," In itself admission that I am right and you are a moron.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know your comprehension of the written English language is limited, is the reason as to why you missed it. The operative word was "DIRECTLY". Turkey is doing it directly and the most in the north are doing it indirectly, by being in support of Turkey's actions that is benefiting them, specially all the foreigners like yourself.

Now do you get it! :roll:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:36 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours, so lets not waste time on the usual GC propaganda that we are thieves, we are sharing what belongs to both of us and dont forget you have the larger portion. May I ask how you know what is being discussed and the negotiating table when they are supposed to be held in secrecy? The only way you can get your property and return ours is through negotiations which due to the intransigence of both sides has shown we cannot agree anything therefore time and time again will produce no solution.

Once the talks end for the umpteenth time each side will go there own way and pursue their own agendas, what we do doesnt concern you one iota and what you do in the south doesnt concern us. Time you started to accept the reality in front of you.


Pyro as we have discussed before you cannot steal what is already yours


I have already answered this question for you with the analogy of illegal embezzlement of funds from a company bank account owned by two or more partners, but I guess it doesn't hurt you to peddle the same crap in the hopes that someone other than a Fascist will buy it. :lol:


And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land, but Turkey is with her occupation of the north, so when did Turkey become a partner with the RoC so that she can take any Sovereign and private land of other Cypriots and not be seen as theft? :wink:

Surely if the rest of the world did not see the north as being stolen, surely the north would have been recognised by now. How can you explain that one? :lol:

And one more thing, just because I like punishing you. :lol:

Don't you always say that the RoC/GCs have stolen the RoC government and ALL the benefits and that they are not legitimate? So the question to you is, if the GCs are joint partners with the TCs over everything, then how can you say they stole anything, and the fact that the rest of the world does not agree with you, it must really make you look like an idiot! :lol:


That only happens in your mind as we all know it is warped and biased, do the GC share recognition with us? do the TCs share the island with GCs? Now that does make you look exactly what you really are a moron.

Kikapoo quote; "And by the way, in reality, it is not the TCs who are directly stealing other Cypriots Sovereign and private land," In itself admission that I am right and you are a moron.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know your comprehension of the written English language is limited, is the reason as to why you missed it. The operative word was "DIRECTLY". Turkey is doing it directly and the most in the north are doing it indirectly, by being in support of Turkey's actions that is benefiting them, specially all the foreigners like yourself.

Now do you get it! :roll:


You can deny it until you are blue in the face but you cannot steal what already belongs to you when you are also in fact still sharing it together. Those that have stolen and taken it away from the other party not allowing them even a whiff eg recognition are the real thieves.
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