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[Hermes]

Once the world understands that we cannot agree even a Cypriot solution amongst Cypriots they will understand that union is no longer possible and that the TCs cannot be kept in limbo forever, one way or another decisions will be made and ı think the GCs arent gonna like it as they have stuck a very hot potato namely a very divided island into the EU which is all about union....well done they must be very please with you GCs.

The EU understands two things: The whole of Cyprus is EU territory. Turkey is occupying EU territory. There is no way round that dilemma for Turkey. The EU does not hold Cyprus responsible for the division and is not about to "reward" Turkey by recognising the breakaway state. As you say, the EU is not interested in division and is not about to divide Cyprus - against the wishes of one of its own members. Especially now that the island is promising to supply the EU with its energy needs for decades to come. The most likely scenario is increasing Turkish isolation from the EU and increasing TC restlessness. Anything else is pure Turkish fantasy of the kind we have been used to over the years. None of it has come true: "direct trade" "direct flights" nor the "trade embargo" being lifted.

Can you give me one instance of anyone seriously advocating your agenda other than the usual Turkish clowns?

[Viewpoint]

herpees you need time to realize that after these talks come to a close the EU cannot just turn a blind eye to the division of the island and the fact that no solution can be found, a disinterested UN and Turkeys EU admission on the shelf...if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for. With no political solution and part of the blame squarely on your shoulders the EU will take steps which you will not like as we to will push for action that will alleviate the TCs isolation. You cannot have everything your own way.

[belloturko2012]

Tutut look at all u Turk haters still winging like a bunch of little girls...look u got ur arses kicked get over it. The Turkish economy is not a puny economy..maybe it is not as big as Taiwan's but at least it's not down the toilet like Greeces. Now the Greek Cypriot's have no one to turn to as Greece has its own problems so I wouldn't be showing off too much about how weak Turkey is economically or that it is not part of the EU...look where the EU is now...Germany even regrets letting Greece in!!! So keep ur EU...u didn't want us so we don't want u.

[B25]

herpees you need time to realize that after these talks come to a close the EU cannot just turn a blind eye to the division of the island and the fact that no solution can be found, a disinterested UN and Turkeys EU admission on the shelf...if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for. With no political solution and part of the blame squarely on your shoulders the EU will take steps which you will not like as we to will push for action that will alleviate the TCs isolation. You cannot have everything your own way.

Yeah thats right, you just want the EU benefits (ungrateful parasites), yet you do not recognise the legitimate ROC who IS the EU. You claim Turkey does not want the EU, yet you still expect the EU to see your 'pseudo isolation', which you brought upon your selves. WHEN, the talks break down, the RoC should take a much harder stance against you, so far you have been lucky and the talks have held us back. Hypocricy at its best.

You are the one who wants everything your own way. You don't want the EU, you don't want the RoC, yet you want all the benefits the EU/RoC will offer. All those two faced, hypocritical TCs, ministers, their families, and others all with RoC passports are happy to take, take, take. Well it's about time it stopped, either you are RoC/EU or you are turkey 3rd world. Now who wants it all their own way.

Once all this BS talking has stopped, it'll be time for action and you'll desrve everything you got coming. You Vindictive Poisonous person.

[Viewpoint]

B25

Yeah thats right, you just want the EU benefits (ungrateful parasites), yet you do not recognise the legitimate ROC who IS the EU. You claim Turkey does not want the EU, yet you still expect the EU to see your 'pseudo isolation', which you brought upon your selves. WHEN, the talks break down, the RoC should take a much harder stance against you, so far you have been lucky and the talks have held us back. Hypocricy at its best.

Hello you are the ones claiming to represent us not the other way around, you used us and then you want to take away any rights you have gain in our name and keep them for yourselves, you greedy bastard. Again you are the ones who have taken the TRNC into the EU not us, so the EU have to deal with problem you bestowed upon them Im sure that makes them real fond of you GCs. Please please take a harder stance tomorrow and show you no longer represent us at any platform that would guarantee our recognition tomorrow...so feel free to do exactly what you threaten.

You are the one who wants everything your own way. You don't want the EU, you don't want the RoC, yet you want all the benefits the EU/RoC will offer. All those two faced, hypocritical TCs, ministers, their families, and others all with RoC passports are happy to take, take, take. Well it's about time it stopped, either you are RoC/EU or you are turkey 3rd world. Now who wants it all their own way.

We didnt ask for the EU or any benefits you dregged us in and now you want to keep the benefits for yourselves you fucking hypocritical sum bag....ask the EU to throw the north out therefore removing any benefits...we have no problem with that you do. We will choose Turkey everytime.

Once all this BS talking has stopped, it'll be time for action and you'll desrve everything you got coming. You Vindictive Poisonous person.

Do your worst we are ready you vile piece of sum.

[Hermes]

if the TCs are as you claim citizens of the EU they cannot keep us isolated for to long as this goes against all the EU stands for.

You don't seem to understand that only ROC citizens living in the occupied areas are actually EU citizens. Settlers are not EU citizens. Indeed the majority of those living in the pseudo-state are not entitled to any kind of EU status or protection. It is the RoC which is a member state of the EU. And that includes its citizens and territory in the occupied areas.

May I ask, what makes you think you're an EU citizen?

[B25]

The shit bag has a british passport, thats all.

[Hermes]

The shit bag has a british passport, thats all.

So what's he moaning about? He can take his British passport and go anywhere in the EU. He can even go down south and live amongst his fellow EU citizens. You'd think someone was forcing him to live in a pissy little illegal Turkish-occupied backwater.

[repulsewarrior]

...we'll see what Turkey's Erdogan will do, he is the one for hostility and the politics of adversity. this is his deadline, that's his Continental Shelf Cyprus is sitting on, (Syria is on it too). and remember it's to this day the Treaty of Lausanne which tarnishes the "Turkish" image, that theft is still to be resolved, he'll get all of Cyprus back, and in revenge for Crete he may remove all what he calls Greeks from this island.

...are we talking Turkey wild with the thoughts she is a middle country, that Pakistan, Brazil and China are good neighbours in what will be a row with Europe? will the Russian behomoth side with America against what is a land grab that doubles Turkey's territory, along with what the others' share in far away places like Afghanistan (or will Israel pull the trigger first, with Iran); if it's war. otherwise, nothing will change dramatically, the facts will be added to now what is a long list of milestones, this January, which do not resolve the Problem.

[Maximus]

Its the same story, a fruitless argument which has created a pathology to nowhere and now it is all going to turn 180 in the Turkish Cypriots favour because it is in their best interest to have the talks fail!

Viewpoint, you are just wanting and needing off the back and efforts of the Greek Cypriots and it seems that you expect everyone to give while you talk about TAKSIM and holding out. Your community has torn the ass hole out of Cyprus and now you are talking of more of the same as the EU is going to help you do it. Its a wild punt but I would not back you, you and your argument is full of sh*t.