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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:39 pm

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What strategies will be used by Turkey after the talks break down are directly related to who is seen to be blamed for the impasse and like the AP we think it will yet again be the GCs.

The TCs will continue to side with Turkey for as long as there is no concrete safe alternative, whats on offer at the moment is not just good enough or most TCs would move south tomorrow.

You GCs need to get your brains into gear as it appears you are about to stall once again. You cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will so the only way to get them to unite is to win them over.

Turkey has no "strategies", VP. You need to stop living in your little Turkish bubble. The UN is not going to overturn its own resolutions and call for the recognition of the occupied areas. The EU is not going to go against Cyprus. It's over, VP. You need to face reality. Since 2004 you have been predicting recognition or easing of the embargoes. It hasn't happened. Enough of telling us what you think is going to happen. You are always wrong. Every time.


Then you have nothing to worry about like 1974........do you :wink:
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:What strategies will be used by Turkey after the talks break down are directly related to who is seen to be blamed for the impasse and like the AP we think it will yet again be the GCs.

The TCs will continue to side with Turkey for as long as there is no concrete safe alternative, whats on offer at the moment is not just good enough or most TCs would move south tomorrow.

You GCs need to get your brains into gear as it appears you are about to stall once again. You cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will so the only way to get them to unite is to win them over.



This just proves how effective the brainwashing of the Eroglus and the Turkish media is on you. Don't you have access to any other unbiased information? The truth is exactly the opposite, the blame is totally on the Turkish side. Just put your logic down and think for a minute. Just 2 names Christofias and Eroglu. Which of the 2 do you think is to blame for the impasse? If the names were Christofias and Talat, that would be really difficult, but Christofias and EROGLU for God sake? What's the difference in your mind between Eroglu and Denktash??

Despite of that the UN have proven
a)That the are unable to enforce their own resolutions, not even work in line with those with the parties in finding in reaching an agreement.
b)The always play the equal distance game.
c)They save face by leaving problems pending for ever.

There have been hundreds of impasses in the past, there will be another one soon, the UN will not blame anyone, and that's all.
In the meantime feel free to believe all the nonsense all those hypocrites from Turkey tell you. You will just waste a few more years of your life.

It will not cost anything to the Turkish politicians or Erdogan to the give you false promises. The reason is very simple you are not in their electorate. It's part of the political game.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:42 pm

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What strategies will be used by Turkey after the talks break down are directly related to who is seen to be blamed for the impasse and like the AP we think it will yet again be the GCs.

The TCs will continue to side with Turkey for as long as there is no concrete safe alternative, whats on offer at the moment is not just good enough or most TCs would move south tomorrow.

You GCs need to get your brains into gear as it appears you are about to stall once again. You cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will so the only way to get them to unite is to win them over.

Turkey has no "strategies", VP. You need to stop living in your little Turkish bubble. The UN is not going to overturn its own resolutions and call for the recognition of the occupied areas. The EU is not going to go against Cyprus. It's over, VP. You need to face reality. Since 2004 you have been predicting recognition or easing of the embargoes. It hasn't happened. Enough of telling us what you think is going to happen. You are always wrong. Every time.


You only need to acknowledge that the resolutions have continuity and consistency. It would defy all logic for the UN and the EU to suddenly turn on a dime and recognise the T*NC. Those that enter and accept Turkishness and the reality will give away ALL their power to Turkey. I would say that the odds of this happening are zero to none.

Gul, Erdogan and Co will bring Turkey to her knees and she will know that she has no real allies. Iraq will be the next one to go. I dont know how, but they will f&ck their own country up something rotten.


You people are born Turkey doom and gloom merchants.....watch and learn how its dome one step at a time no need to rush but the difficult part is over we have 37% of the island and are not about to let it go.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby boulio » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:43 pm

i JUST DONT UNDERSTAND that some t/c really cannot comprehend that recognition will never come.If only they really comprehended this and negotiated in good faith there would be a solution to the cyprus problem.A TRUE federal model would be in the t/c community best interest but they seem not to comprehend this.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
You people are born Turkey doom and gloom merchants.....watch and learn how its dome one step at a time no need to rush but the difficult part is over we have 37% of the island and are not about to let it go.


Does that cost you more than 50% of your salary?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5376.htm

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Per capita GDP income: Greek Cypriots (2010)--$27,945; Turkish Cypriots (2009)--$13,354.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby humanist » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:38 pm

gawd your worse than the worst of the fascist gC and I had one of those in my family till he fell off the perch. Actually you must be reincarnate.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:53 pm

humanist wrote:gawd your worse than the worst of the fascist gC and I had one of those in my family till he fell off the perch. Actually you must be reincarnate.


who???
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby humanist » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:54 pm

VP is ........... Never seen anyone holding a candle to Country that hold a people isolated and imprisoned, risking their cultural and socio economic existence. Has never really pushed for their recognition or their integration into Europe. may be Turkey is scared that "even" the TC's will be Europeans before the Turks are. Mind you they have asked the self imposed isolation and still are.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
You people are born Turkey doom and gloom merchants.....watch and learn how its dome one step at a time no need to rush but the difficult part is over we have 37% of the island and are not about to let it go.


Does that cost you more than 50% of your salary?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5376.htm

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Per capita GDP income: Greek Cypriots (2010)--$27,945; Turkish Cypriots (2009)--$13,354.


What you dont have you dont miss, plus how do we fair to countries in the promised land like the EU? are we better off that say Romania or Estonia????
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:08 pm

boulio wrote:i JUST DONT UNDERSTAND that some t/c really cannot comprehend that recognition will never come.If only they really comprehended this and negotiated in good faith there would be a solution to the cyprus problem.A TRUE federal model would be in the t/c community best interest but they seem not to comprehend this.


Look at this way we have what we want 37% of the island, recognition would be the icing on the cake but the important issue is that we have the cake.

What you offer is not enough when countered against what we have today, you have to win us over and you are doing a very bad job of it.
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