Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:So what you are saying is, the GCs can't have the north EVEN if they did agree to a partnership in a BBF. That being the case, why agree to a partnership in a BBF at all.
Is that what you understand by my claim that GCs can only resolve the problem by agreeing a BBF where we rule the north and they the south? isnt that what our leaders are trying to agree right now?
No they are not, since that's not what "political equality" means.Perhaps Eroglu is trying to agree to what you are suggesting, but I doubt Christofias is, therefore you cannot use the term "our leaders", since not both the leaders are on the same page on this one.
You said agreeing to a partnership BBF means where TCs/Turkey get to rule the north and the GCs to rule the south. What you are implying is, that the north will belong to the TCs/Turkey and the south belong to the GCs. That is your understanding of partnership, is it not? I'm sure that's what Eroglu/Turkey is trying to negotiate, but I'm sure that's not what Christiofias/RoC is willing to negotiate. There is no such thing as "partnership" in the BBF agreement but ONLY "political equality" between the states and the communities living in those states, regardless of their ethnicity. "Political Equality" in the context written in the BBF has many interpretations if you are willing to see them all and not just what you want it to mean-
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:But you are correct, even though you let it slip out unconsciously, that ANY partnership in a BBF or any other partnership, it would mean the GCs losing the north completely as well as a chance of losing the south as well. Isn't what your beloved Annan Plan was all about that you are still wet-dreaming of it coming back?
Where did I state what you claims? you yourself said we would rule 99% of the time in each area. please make up your mind.
I said the states will rule themselves 99% of the time free from the Federal Government and if the TCs are the overwhelming majority in the north state, then the TCs will be the majority in administrating the north state with the laws they would like, providing of course they are allowed under the Federal Laws. But that can only happen if you agree to the terms I have laid out, which means returning at least 50% of the north back to the GCs, otherwise the TCs cannot be the overwhelming majority in the north if more than 20% of the north is kept, which means the TCs will need to administer the north with the GC if more than 20% land kept to become the north state. But in any case, this is all academic since Eroglu/Turkey are not interested in a Federation anyway, which means BBF cannot be agreed on, which means the UNSC will need to make another resolution that will include today's realities since the RoC is now in the EU. It may even be a Unitary state. Too bad for you that Eroglu/Turkey turning down the BBF as agreed to in the 70's. You might need to get used to the idea of living with the GCs in a Unitary state instead with no separate Federal states at all. It will be as it was before 1974.
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:In any case, one cannot run a country as a business and partnership, so I do not expect ANY partnership to ever take place in Cyprus. Proportional Power sharing perhaps, but a complete outright 50-50 partnership will NEVER happen.
If you are the mouth piece for the GCs then that has how much weight exactly percentage wise?
I don't understand the above. It's a nonsensical statement to say the least.....sorry!
I ONLY speak as a Cypriot, which means nothing to you of course, and if any other Cypriots want to hear what I have to say, all the better.
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:In any case, Turkey is in the north illegally as an occupying power trying desperately to change its ownership. The land still belongs to the RoC and the EU. If Turkey hasn't managed to claim the north outright for herself before 2004 when Cyprus became member of the EU as well as 100% of Cyprus, the future looks very bleak that Turkey will EVER manage to keep the north since 2004. What's the point in trying anyway, specially it has proven that Turkey has no Oil and Gas between her shores and Cyprus, and specially since all the Oil and Gas is in the south of Cyprus.
Turkey is going nowhere as you are not clever enough to get rid of them 38 years proves my point, legally or illegally we will keep the north forever you have nothing up your sleeve and spout nothing more than hot air, you have been claiming doom and gloom for both Turkey and the TRNC for years but we are still here,still standing, still divided which in itself proves you have no credibility whatsoever.
As for the natural resources that issue is far from over but as you know there are many countries who do not have direct access to these resources yet have not collapsed or disappeared, life does not stop.
Rome Empire or the Ottoman Empire did not "crash & burn" in a day either, but in the end, they did. Just stick around for a while and enjoy your popcorn as you watch events unfold themselves in front of your eyes.
