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[Viewpoint]

Some people forget that the occupied area of Cyprus is a part of an EU State territory and at this stage even though not in effective control of the legitimate RoC government it still is European territory and I believe whilst the government cannot implement any decisions made it still is Cypriot territory and any decisions made will be made in unison of the EU and Cyprus.

Hello you sound like you need reminding that we are divided and you nor the EU have a say in what we do here in the TRNC.

[Viewpoint]

So it looks like deadlock and each side is left pushing it own agenda.

Just what agenda can the "trnc" push that it hasn't already tried to push many times and has failed many times in trying in the last 37 years. Please do tell us.

The RoC however, has created new possible agendas for herself, thanks to the "trnc"/Turkey for them not being interested in BBF with EU Principles for a settlement. If you think the Oil & Gas finds will not favour the RoC's to achieve her new agandas, you are very much mistaken. Too bad the TCs will miss out their share, while they are told to wait for the long awaited but never coming "trnc's" own agenda to the "promise land".

You can throw all the wealth you wish at the TCs you can rest assured that they will never give up is the north or the right to administer themselves or accept minority rights in a GC state. The TCs once the talks have collapsed as I have stated before will be to work even closer with Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north and get to work closer with the OIC to further our own agenda. You can say whatever you wish it makes absolutely no difference what we do in the TRNC does not concern the GCs.

Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north

So what you are saying is, that Turkey now has leverage on the EU for the EU to do what Turkey wants against EU's best interests on EU's own territory. Really?

It appears it is not ONLY Turkey who has delusions of grandeur, but you also.

As for working closer with the OIC, go for it. I'm sure they would want to sell their date fruits in the north.

Why do you care? you have absolutely nothing to do with the TRNC...you have not even visited.

[CBBB]

So it looks like deadlock and each side is left pushing it own agenda.

Just what agenda can the "trnc" push that it hasn't already tried to push many times and has failed many times in trying in the last 37 years. Please do tell us.

The RoC however, has created new possible agendas for herself, thanks to the "trnc"/Turkey for them not being interested in BBF with EU Principles for a settlement. If you think the Oil & Gas finds will not favour the RoC's to achieve her new agandas, you are very much mistaken. Too bad the TCs will miss out their share, while they are told to wait for the long awaited but never coming "trnc's" own agenda to the "promise land".

You can throw all the wealth you wish at the TCs you can rest assured that they will never give up is the north or the right to administer themselves or accept minority rights in a GC state. The TCs once the talks have collapsed as I have stated before will be to work even closer with Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north and get to work closer with the OIC to further our own agenda. You can say whatever you wish it makes absolutely no difference what we do in the TRNC does not concern the GCs.

Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north

So what you are saying is, that Turkey now has leverage on the EU for the EU to do what Turkey wants against EU's best interests on EU's own territory. Really?

It appears it is not ONLY Turkey who has delusions of grandeur, but you also.

As for working closer with the OIC, go for it. I'm sure they would want to sell their date fruits in the north.

Why do you care? you have absolutely nothing to do with the TRNC...you have not even visited.

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

[Viewpoint]

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

To tell heathens like you that you cannot have the north.

[kurupetos]

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

To tell heathens like you that you cannot have the north.

Have you gone religious?

[Hermes]

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

To tell heathens like you that you cannot have the north.

The north is legally RoC and EU territory so Turkey cannot have the north either. Isn't that its problem?

[Viewpoint]

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

To tell heathens like you that you cannot have the north.

The north is legally RoC and EU territory so Turkey cannot have the north either. Isn't that its problem?

Turkey has the north and theres nothing you have done to date that will help you get it back, it is time you realized that you have to agree a partnership along BBF where you rule the south and we rule the north.

[Kikapu]

So it looks like deadlock and each side is left pushing it own agenda.

Just what agenda can the "trnc" push that it hasn't already tried to push many times and has failed many times in trying in the last 37 years. Please do tell us.

The RoC however, has created new possible agendas for herself, thanks to the "trnc"/Turkey for them not being interested in BBF with EU Principles for a settlement. If you think the Oil & Gas finds will not favour the RoC's to achieve her new agandas, you are very much mistaken. Too bad the TCs will miss out their share, while they are told to wait for the long awaited but never coming "trnc's" own agenda to the "promise land".

You can throw all the wealth you wish at the TCs you can rest assured that they will never give up is the north or the right to administer themselves or accept minority rights in a GC state. The TCs once the talks have collapsed as I have stated before will be to work even closer with Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north and get to work closer with the OIC to further our own agenda. You can say whatever you wish it makes absolutely no difference what we do in the TRNC does not concern the GCs.

Turkey to apply pressure on the EU to relax the restrictions on the north

So what you are saying is, that Turkey now has leverage on the EU for the EU to do what Turkey wants against EU's best interests on EU's own territory. Really?

It appears it is not ONLY Turkey who has delusions of grandeur, but you also.

As for working closer with the OIC, go for it. I'm sure they would want to sell their date fruits in the north.

Why do you care? you have absolutely nothing to do with the TRNC...you have not even visited.

No one in their right mind would have anything to do with the "trnc", unless they are forced into it, like many decent TCs in the north. Isn't that the whole problem you are facing with the International Community that one one wants to know the "trnc"?

Only those who are morally corrupted will want anything to do with an illegal entity called "trnc", which it's whole existence is based on Ethnic Cleansing, where Rule of Law does not exist. But if I ever wanted to corrupt my basic moral values, I will be right over there to buy some stolen GC properties. Hey, if I'm going to cross the line (green) anyway, might as well cross it all the way so to corrupt myself to the core. I'm sure you will guide me well, the pro that you are.

Did you have another question for me or have you had enough.

[repulsewarrior]

...just to be clear vp, do you mean, within a State called Republic of Cyprus, Individuals have as well the facility to represent themselves as Persons; (a minimum of) three governing bodies?

...do you understand my question?

[Kikapu]

Why would Kikapu, a Cypriot, want to come and visit the Anatolian peasants (like yourself) that are the majority in the occupied areas of his country?

To tell heathens like you that you cannot have the north.

The north is legally RoC and EU territory so Turkey cannot have the north either. Isn't that its problem?

Turkey has the north and theres nothing you have done to date that will help you get it back, it is time you realized that you have to agree a partnership along BBF where you rule the south and we rule the north.

So what you are saying is, the GCs can't have the north EVEN if they did agree to a partnership in a BBF. That being the case, why agree to a partnership in a BBF at all.

But you are correct, even though you let it slip out unconsciously, that ANY partnership in a BBF or any other partnership, it would mean the GCs losing the north completely as well as a chance of losing the south as well. Isn't what your beloved Annan Plan was all about that you are still wet-dreaming of it coming back?

In any case, one cannot run a country as a business and partnership, so I do not expect ANY partnership to ever take place in Cyprus. Proportional Power sharing perhaps, but a complete outright 50-50 partnership will NEVER happen.

In any case, Turkey is in the north illegally as an occupying power trying desperately to change its ownership. The land still belongs to the RoC and the EU. If Turkey hasn't managed to claim the north outright for herself before 2004 when Cyprus became member of the EU as well as 100% of Cyprus, the future looks very bleak that Turkey will EVER manage to keep the north since 2004. What's the point in trying anyway, specially it has proven that Turkey has no Oil and Gas between her shores and Cyprus, and specially since all the Oil and Gas is in the south of Cyprus.


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