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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:15 pm

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Kikapu wrote:If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.


Love to see that, go for it....show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Love to see that, go for it..


You mean just like you didn't expect the Orams to lose in the British High court, because you believed there was a strong Expat lobby group in the north and that the British Courts wouldn't rule against one of their own. :lol:

Or did you mean the RoC couldn't arrest any EU citizen for crimes committed in the north, then Gary Robb ends up in RoC's jail after being extradited from his home country of UK. :lol:

show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Confiscating planes that are illegally landing in Cyprus has nothing to do with the TCs, specially since they are a small minority in the north against a majority Illegal Alien settlers. Perhaps you are under the impression that illegal plane landings are a routine on EU territories all over the EU, therefore the EU will prevent such actions by the RoC in the north. Fined/Confiscated planes would belong to mainly companies from Turkey. I mean, the TCs do not have their own airline, do they? Even when you thought they did in the past, it was still a Turkish operation with Turkish registration. But if the TCs wanted to have their own airline which is registered with the RoC, that would be something different and they may even be allowed to land in the north legally, providing of course, you have less employees running the company than passenger so not to go bankrupt again. Until then, TCs and EU citizens can always use the airports in the south, so where is the hardship for the minority TCs in the north?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:39 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.


Love to see that, go for it....show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Love to see that, go for it..


You mean just like you didn't expect the Orams to lose in the British High court, because you believed there was a strong Expat lobby group in the north and that the British Courts wouldn't rule against one of their own. :lol:

Or did you mean the RoC couldn't arrest any EU citizen for crimes committed in the north, then Gary Robb ends up in RoC's jail after being extradited from his home country of UK. :lol:

show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Confiscating planes that are illegally landing in Cyprus has nothing to do with the TCs, specially since they are a small minority in the north against a majority Illegal Alien settlers. Perhaps you are under the impression that illegal plane landings are a routine on EU territories all over the EU, therefore the EU will prevent such actions by the RoC in the north. Fined/Confiscated planes would belong to mainly companies from Turkey. I mean, the TCs do not have their own airline, do they? Even when you thought they did in the past, it was still a Turkish operation with Turkish registration. But if the TCs wanted to have their own airline which is registered with the RoC, that would be something different and they may even be allowed to land in the north legally, providing of course, you have less employees running the company than passenger so not to go bankrupt again. Until then, TCs and EU citizens can always use the airports in the south, so where is the hardship for the minority TCs in the north?


As I said go for it..Id like to see the end result as was the case with Orams and Robb which has got you where exactly? You are even further away from a solution than you have ever been can you still not see you are on the wrong track and all these actions and law suits have gotten you zilch land back zilch settlers departing and zilch Turkish Soldiers departing. You really need to step back and listen to people like Bananiot and Pyro who have concrete ideas that would unite us rather than what you support which has divided and will continue to divide us forever.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.


Love to see that, go for it....show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Love to see that, go for it..


You mean just like you didn't expect the Orams to lose in the British High court, because you believed there was a strong Expat lobby group in the north and that the British Courts wouldn't rule against one of their own. :lol:

Or did you mean the RoC couldn't arrest any EU citizen for crimes committed in the north, then Gary Robb ends up in RoC's jail after being extradited from his home country of UK. :lol:

show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.


Confiscating planes that are illegally landing in Cyprus has nothing to do with the TCs, specially since they are a small minority in the north against a majority Illegal Alien settlers. Perhaps you are under the impression that illegal plane landings are a routine on EU territories all over the EU, therefore the EU will prevent such actions by the RoC in the north. Fined/Confiscated planes would belong to mainly companies from Turkey. I mean, the TCs do not have their own airline, do they? Even when you thought they did in the past, it was still a Turkish operation with Turkish registration. But if the TCs wanted to have their own airline which is registered with the RoC, that would be something different and they may even be allowed to land in the north legally, providing of course, you have less employees running the company than passenger so not to go bankrupt again. Until then, TCs and EU citizens can always use the airports in the south, so where is the hardship for the minority TCs in the north?


As I said go for it..Id like to see the end result as was the case with Orams and Robb which has got you where exactly? You are even further away from a solution than you have ever been can you still not see you are on the wrong track and all these actions and law suits have gotten you zilch land back zilch settlers departing and zilch Turkish Soldiers departing. You really need to step back and listen to people like Bananiot and Pyro who have concrete ideas that would unite us rather than what you support which has divided and will continue to divide us forever.


There's nothing stopping the TCs from forming a lasting settlement based on BBF with EU Principles, which is the best the TCs can possibly hope and wish for. It is Turkey and all the Fascist supporters of Turkey in the north who do not allow the TCs to seek a lasting settlement, therefore you are as always barking up the wrong tree. Since Turkey and the Fascists in the north do not want a lasting settlement based on the above said principles, why should the occupiers and their Fascist supporters have an easy life from the Rule of Law and the EU?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:53 pm

Again its the surgeon we object to not the scalpel.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby kimon07 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Again its the surgeon we object to not the scalpel.


No need for either. A modern european constitution respecting majority and minority rights will do the job.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:04 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Again its the surgeon we object to not the scalpel.


No need for either. A modern european constitution respecting majority and minority rights will do the job.


Not when there is a GC majority and a TC minority in the mix.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:14 pm

VP wrote:Where do we go after January 2012?


May I suggest you eff off back to Turkey?
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:16 pm

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VP wrote:Where do we go after January 2012?


May I suggest you eff off back to Turkey?



Why? why dont you go back to Greece.
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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VP wrote:Where do we go after January 2012?


May I suggest you eff off back to Turkey?



Why? why dont you go back to Greece.


Home for us Greeks, is right here in Cyprus - has been for thousands of years. Go home belligerent Turk!
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Re: Where do we go after January 2012?

Postby humanist » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:26 pm

now now island girl. ottoman remnants have a place in Cypriot society, they just have to like all other immigrant communities in other parts of the world support and be proud of their new homeland. They just don't have the right to gift their new Country to turkey based on the fact they speak the same language.

In my opinion we should buy Castelorizo from the greeks and offer it to the TC's who want to be closer to their mummy.
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