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[humanist]

VP your saying you are not being treated fairly but never actually state how you think fairly looks like. Is it that you as a community dunno what you want> Is it that you cry poor when infact you cannot state what fairly is to you. The RoC will try to protect its interests and whilst the EU is in the occupied area it does not mean that the EU can act as it pleases at the detriment of one of its soon to be the richest economies in the block.

[Viewpoint]

VP your saying you are not being treated fairly but never actually state how you think fairly looks like. Is it that you as a community dunno what you want> Is it that you cry poor when infact you cannot state what fairly is to you. The RoC will try to protect its interests and whilst the EU is in the occupied area it does not mean that the EU can act as it pleases at the detriment of one of its soon to be the richest economies in the block.

Why do you feel GCs should have the right to everything and not the TCs? why can you have a recognized airport and not the TCs? why can you have a GC run state when you will not allow us a TC run state? we want a level playing field.

[Kikapu]

come on VP you have been say that since 2004 and nothing has happened,dektash and turkey created the TRNC IN 1983 AND STILL NOTHING HAS happened.for crist sake azerbajain wont even recognize you.You must comprimise as the ROC HAS FOR A SOLUTION TO COME ABOUT WAITING FOR THE eu TO GIVE YOU DIRECT TRADE AND RECOGNITION WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

GUL said it the best when he was FM of Turkey:

the "TRNC"CANT EVEN export a box of oranges.

Are they the oranges he eats all the time that come directly from what is it you call the region Omorfo I think.

We will never ask the EU for outright recognition but just the fact that the EU are in the north and take notice means progress for us, all we have to do is continue to show we want to be treated fairly and not discriminated against or punished for matters which are beyond our control.

Didn't you know that EU Acquis is suspended in the north with protocol 10 due to the occupation of the north where the RoC government does not have effective control?

You cannot expect the EU to treat those living in the north as equal as any other EU country, when you don't even recognise the EU Principles. You cannot pick and choose what the EU offers and leave out what you don't want. The EU is not your typical "kapali pazar" (covered bazaar). It is ALL or nothing. Besides, you have Turkey's 75 million population market, so how is your export going? Oh, I forgot, you don't have anything to sell to them, do you? They are instead selling everything to you. So what did you exactly want the EU to do for you and what do you want the EU to do with all the Illegal Alien settlers who outnumber all the TCs in the north by 3-4 times. Treat them as EU citizens also?

You are no better than Gül, Erdogan, Davutoglu and Bagis, where you insult the EU at every chance, but then, you want the benefits at the same time. It's all or nothing.

[boulio]

because you ethnically cleansed gc from there homes and are not allowing them to go back is that good enough for you VP.

[Kikapu]

VP your saying you are not being treated fairly but never actually state how you think fairly looks like. Is it that you as a community dunno what you want> Is it that you cry poor when infact you cannot state what fairly is to you. The RoC will try to protect its interests and whilst the EU is in the occupied area it does not mean that the EU can act as it pleases at the detriment of one of its soon to be the richest economies in the block.

Why do you feel GCs should have the right to everything and not the TCs? why can you have a recognized airport and not the TCs? why can you have a GC run state when you will not allow us a TC run state? we want a level playing field.

Yeah, it is called BBF with EU Principles, which you are not interested.

Having an illegal "trnc" has a price to be paid, and you are paying it, so don't complain, because you still have the Illegal "trnc". It is one or the other.

[repulsewarrior]

...who is the "You", you are refering too...

you thought you had it locked down in 1974

...could it be the "Greeks"?

it is not the Greeks (or the Turks) that are Cypriots....

[Kikapu]

If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.

[bill cobbett]

If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.

Excellent approach... cert within the EU as the judgments of the Courts in Nicosia are very easily enforceable in any other EU nation.

[repulsewarrior]

...it is up to Turkey.

so long as Cypriots do not exist in her mind, only the proxy war between "Greeks" and "Turks" exist. so long as only Turks can be "Turkish" enough, your generalisation is racist. so long as people who are Turkish are forbidden to express themselves for the same reason, Turkey's stagnation as a culture will grow, because it will not adapt to a changing world, while her resistance continues to harm those she claims to represent.

[Viewpoint]

If the talks do end in January 2012, then the RoC has nothing to lose by start taking legal actions on ALL planes landing in the north illegally. They know exactly which planes land in the north, including their registration numbers. They will try these airlines in the RoC courts, say €50,000 Euros penalty per plane, per each violation, and have the planes confiscated at any EU airport if the fines are not paid. That could just be for starters of things to come to the north as long as the occupation goes, instead VP's hopes for the EU helping the north to improve itself.

Love to see that, go for it....show the world your strength in dealing with TCs.