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[Kikapu]

Technical Support
Voice on the international platform
Financial Support
Relaxation of Sports events
Partial Direct Trade
Pressure on the GCs for a more flexible approach.
Tourism support
Educational intergration with Bologna.
Opening of Maras.
Joint operation of Ercan.
come to mind.

You have given me a shopping list of items what the "trnc" needs from the EU, which will not get btw, because the TCs as individuals can get what they want either from the RoC or Turkey being the occupying power of the "trnc". Do not mix the needs of the "trnc" and the TCs for the EU to come and help, which is what you are failing to do!

[Viewpoint]

Technical Support
Voice on the international platform
Financial Support
Relaxation of Sports events
Partial Direct Trade
Pressure on the GCs for a more flexible approach.
Tourism support
Educational intergration with Bologna.
Opening of Maras.
Joint operation of Ercan.
come to mind.

You have given me a shopping list of items what the "trnc" needs from the EU, which will not get btw, because the TCs as individuals can get what they want either from the RoC or Turkey being the occupying power of the "trnc". Do not mix the needs of the "trnc" and the TCs for the EU to come and help, which is what you are failing to do!

Which of the above can we get from Turkey or the GCs that will assist us with becoming financially independent?

[yialousa1971]

The Turkish Occupation of the north had an affect on a lot of Cypriots, so if the TCs who were naturally from the northern part of Cyprus before the occupation took place in 1974, they have the choice to ask the EU/UN for the removal of the Turkish Occupation from Cyprus or move to the southern part of Cyprus voluntarily where their EU Rights will be protected, just as thousands of other Cypriots had to do involuntarily caused by the Turkish occupation. If any hardship is caused to the innocent TCs affected by the Turkish Occupation in the north, it is the responsibility of the Occupying force to see to their needs, therefore, you personally should complain to Turkey if you really care about these innocent TCs to have their needs met, assuming of course, that they don't also want Turkey's occupation in Cyprus to continue.

For as long as many GCs are brainwashed via the Greek-funded ministry of education, that they are “Greeks” then double enosis will remain on Cyprus.

The Cyprus problem is nurtured and prolonged in the primary and secondary schooling of Cyprus where citizens are processed through an ethnic manufacturing factory…

You put Cypriot meat in at one end and get Greek sausages out the other!

WTF
You really are Gay.

[humanist]

we love a gay GR just as much as we love a straight one

Cypriotism needs to be promoted in all schools on either side of the divide.

[yialousa1971]

The Turkish Occupation of the north had an affect on a lot of Cypriots, so if the TCs who were naturally from the northern part of Cyprus before the occupation took place in 1974, they have the choice to ask the EU/UN for the removal of the Turkish Occupation from Cyprus or move to the southern part of Cyprus voluntarily where their EU Rights will be protected, just as thousands of other Cypriots had to do involuntarily caused by the Turkish occupation. If any hardship is caused to the innocent TCs affected by the Turkish Occupation in the north, it is the responsibility of the Occupying force to see to their needs, therefore, you personally should complain to Turkey if you really care about these innocent TCs to have their needs met, assuming of course, that they don't also want Turkey's occupation in Cyprus to continue.

For as long as many GCs are brainwashed via the Greek-funded ministry of education, that they are “Greeks” then double enosis will remain on Cyprus.

The Cyprus problem is nurtured and prolonged in the primary and secondary schooling of Cyprus where citizens are processed through an ethnic manufacturing factory…

You put Cypriot meat in at one end and get Greek sausages out the other!

Are you Jewish.

[yialousa1971]

I love a gay GR just as much as we love a straight one

Cypriotism needs to be promoted in all schools on either side of the divide.

Good luck to you and GR in your new relationship, I just hope GR's family/friends don't shun him because he's come out.

[humanist]

they're Cypriots aren't they? of course they will.

[Viewpoint]

they're Cypriots aren't they? of course they will.

did yours humanist?

[humanist]

NO VP ........ but it hasn't been easy either. Time heals all wounds. Thanx to greek TV they have been educated

[Kikapu]

Technical Support
Voice on the international platform
Financial Support
Relaxation of Sports events
Partial Direct Trade
Pressure on the GCs for a more flexible approach.
Tourism support
Educational intergration with Bologna.
Opening of Maras.
Joint operation of Ercan.
come to mind.

You have given me a shopping list of items what the "trnc" needs from the EU, which will not get btw, because the TCs as individuals can get what they want either from the RoC or Turkey being the occupying power of the "trnc". Do not mix the needs of the "trnc" and the TCs for the EU to come and help, which is what you are failing to do!

Which of the above can we get from Turkey or the GCs that will assist us with becoming financially independent?

The EU cannot make you financially independent. The EU does not owe you a living. That you need to make it own your own, and in order for you to make it own your own, you need to agree to a settlement with the GCs and get yourself free form the Turkish Occupation. But since you want to use the Turkish Occupation as a "protection" and not agree to a settlement based on EU Principles, but instead stay dependent on Turkey's handout, the EU is not going to help the "trnc" in the hopes that the TCs will get some benefit in a trickle down effect. Until the TCs look to the RoC for a settlement, an EU member state as being their ONLY hope for a better future for them to become financially independent, specially benefiting from the future Gas & Oil, the EU alone will not benefit the TCs when they are holding onto the illegal "trnc". You cannot have your cake and eat it too, no matter how unfair you may think that is.

Not only that, you don't even have the choice or the possibility to go on your own to be independent from the RoC and become financially independent on your own, because a) you don't have the means to do so and b) even if you did, Turkey will not allow you to do so, which means, the RoC is your ONLY hope, one way or the other. The last 37 years should be enough proof for you to see where the TCs have been since the Turkish Occupation, where they are now, and where they are likely to go in the future without the RoC, which is nowhere fast! Bottom line is, don't expect the EU to help the TCs living under the "trnc" if the TCs are not willing to help themselves by getting rid of the illegal "trnc" and the illegal Turkish Occupation. Maybe it will take another 37 years before the penny drops for the TCs for them to realise that if they don't change the last 37 years, the next 37 years will be more of the same as the last!