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[kimon07]

Besides, have you asked the Cyps who earn their living working in the bases if they would be happy if the Brits packed their things and went? Or the villagers in and around the bases who stand to lose their livelyhood? What about the tourist industry, do they have a say in this?

No worries. The BBs will be substituted by the EU Rapid Deployment Force and, why not, NATO facilities. The French, for instance would love that, wouldn't they?

[supporttheunderdog]

Gotcha! I thought I would get a bite with that one.

He actually said "if indeed there EVER was" -
Yesterday is now history and when is ever not ever?

However by your logic Historical invasion and colonisation is OK but modern invasion and colonisation is not.Indeed so what made it right, even it was in about 1150BC or so.

Then the world was being established, borders set, kingdoms made.

Today it is all in place we have advanced from the savage days (well except the turks that is) and we look to ones HR, democracy etc etc.

Does that answer you??

But Cyprus already haed established Kindoms, eg Engkomi, long before the Mycenaeans invaded,

[georgios100]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Follow this link to get a better understanding of the oppressive and ruthless behaviour of the Brits
during the Kenyan occupation.

[supporttheunderdog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Follow this link to get a better understanding of the oppressive and ruthless behaviour of the Brits
during the Kenyan occupation.

Yes I read it and while it shows absolutely apalling behaviour on the part of the forces of the British Colonial Government including rape, torture, murder, it does not support your claim of 1 million dead.

[georgios100]

I stand corrected, thanks.

I recently watched this film by BBC Films called "The First Grader (2010)", based on a true story
about the kenyan occupation, uprising and the aftermath.

In the Film it is stated exactly as follows;

During the Kenyan violent struggle, thousands were killed and more than a million Kikuyu
were inprisoned in British detention camps.

These numbers are truly beyond imagination (over a million inprisoned!!!).

[supporttheunderdog]

If you are refering to the wotrk of Caroline Elkins, her reports of numbers are possibly flawed: what had happened is the many Kikuyu (about a million) were put into reservations which occupied several thousand square miles and encouraged to live in controlled village communties, working the land on the reservation: essentiallly what the United Sates did with the Aboringinal Americans (the so called red Indians).

There was not enough land so starvation, malnutrition, sickness, etc, and other problems associated with rural overcrowding occured and migration was rife where many fled to Nairobi, doubling its size.

The detention camps were something else again and I read a figure somewehere that about 150,000 were processed, very brutally at times, and the type of torture and murder that Caroline Elkins recorded did take place but not to the numbers claimed.

[georgios100]

Here is a link of the movie "The First Grader"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790663/

The writer is Ann Peacock, born in South Africa.
The film has no relation to Caroline Elkins work or findings.

I just don't see why the writer or the director/producer of the movie would want to lie about true events.
The film might be nominated for oscar, therefor the accuracy of it's content is beyond doubt.

I recommend watching this film, perhaps online/streaming, very well done indeed.