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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:12 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Kikapu wrote:What makes this claim not believable, is the fact that Polyps, benign or cancerous, are removed during Colonoscopy rather than through laparoscopic surgery. Only Tumours and effected Lymph Nodes are removed through this method and not Polyps.

Perhaps Erdogan thinks it is not very manly to admit to have had tubes stuck into his body through the backside.

Time will tell what the truth is.

Erdogan brushes off cancer claims

FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE • Fri, Jan 20, 2012

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has denied that he has cancer.
He told journalist Ali Birand that his doctors had told him not to overdo it, after surgery that he had in November. The Turkish PM said he had benign polyps removes from his intestines in the laparoscopinc surgery.
— Copyright © Famagusta Gazette 2011


http://famagusta-gazette.com/erdogan-br ... 230-69.htm


Having had a colonoscopy last week I can confirm that that is the usual way polyps are removed. It's no joke, you have to fast for 24 hours and take Moviprep to empty the digestive tract. The scope goes right round to the appendix, the bowel actually collapses 'cos there's nothing in it so they blow you up with air. After the procedure you fart for hours :lol: . I wanted to see what was going on inside me on the screen but dozed off.

My dad had a bowel tumour removed by laparosc...., he died a year after the operation of bowel cancer aged 94


Jerry, Erdogan may be doing a Bill Clinton on this one, as in what the definition of "is" is. Erdogan may have had a cancerous tumour removed through surgery and now he no longer has any cancerous tumours, hence not having cancer. If this is the case, they sure, he is correct, that he does not have cancer.....now!


In theory, we all have cancerous cells at any one time. It's only our immune systems (mostly) that stop them progressing and becoming a problem.


That is true, so when Erdogan says he does not have cancer, even if he had a cancerous tumour removed, he would be telling the truth (half truth).

Here is part of the interview with Erdogan by MEHMET ALİ BİRAND. I personally believe Birand is trying to help Erdogan hide his cancer operation by telling us his experience with cancer when he talks about what a patient would look like if he was going under Chemotherapy treatment, which he determines that Erdogan is not a cancer patient just by Erdogans appearance and by saying, “No, he isn’t…” . Birand is asking the questions to Erdogan using present tense, “Do you have cancer?” and Erdogan replies, also in present tense, “No, I don’t have cancer.”!

First of all, Erdogan is not going through Chemotherapy treatment and there would not be a need for him to go through a Chemotherapy treatment if he did not have any metastases from the original Colon Cancer. Had he had metastases at various places as well as effected Lymph Nodes, he would not have had the surgery in the first place, but been given Chemotherapy treatment instead. My guess is, he only had a tumour that needed removing and that metastases had not taken place, hence the reason for not needing to have Chemotherapy. However, if in the future he has multiple metastases where the tumour(s) cannot be removed surgically, Chemotherapy will be prescribed to him. This he will not be able to hide once he enters into the Chemotherapy treatment.

I am being treated for cancer and I am undergoing chemotherapy. I know what that means and how it affects your body. I can easily understand whether a person is undergoing chemotherapy. I looked at Erdoğan and concluded: “No, he isn’t…”

I asked that to the prime minister first of all: “Do you have cancer?”

He was very clear: “No, I don’t have cancer.” There were some polyps detected in his intestines a while ago. If they were not removed, they could have developed into cancer. The operation was not an urgent one; it was decided and planned ahead of time.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=405
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby boomerang » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:02 pm

if he is not gonna croak with cancer the chest beating and high blood pressure, as of late, should be enough... :lol:
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:28 pm

Turkish PM Erdoğan undergoes second surgery

Turkish prime minister's office confirmed claims that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan underwent a second surgery yesterday, Hürriyet reported.

Journalists had rushed to Medipol Hospital in Istanbul's Koşuyolu district after it was claimed that Erdoğan was hospitalized there for a routine check-up and a minor surgery.

Prime minister's office made an official statement today, saying Erdoğan had undergone a 30-minute long minor surgery that was a follow-up on the operation on his digestive system on Nov. 26, 2011.

Erdoğan's surgery and the cause for it was kept secret for some time, leading to rumors that the prime minister had intestine cancer.

Hürriyet Daily News columnist Mehmet Ali Birand had asked Erdoğan if he had cancer, during an interview on Jan. 19, to which Erdoğan replied, "No."

February/11/2012

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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 pm

If he will recall the 40,000 Turkish troops then I hope he survives. If his only reason for existing is to continue the occupation of Cyprus, then I hope he croaks.

You choose Erdogan. Prayers for peace?
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:36 am

Cancer ain't like that - it takes people whether they are nasty or nice!
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:17 pm

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Turkish PM Erdoğan undergoes second surgery

Turkish prime minister's office confirmed claims that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan underwent a second surgery yesterday, Hürriyet reported.

Journalists had rushed to Medipol Hospital in Istanbul's Koşuyolu district after it was claimed that Erdoğan was hospitalized there for a routine check-up and a minor surgery.

Prime minister's office made an official statement today, saying Erdoğan had undergone a 30-minute long minor surgery that was a follow-up on the operation on his digestive system on Nov. 26, 2011.

Erdoğan's surgery and the cause for it was kept secret for some time, leading to rumors that the prime minister had intestine cancer.

Hürriyet Daily News columnist Mehmet Ali Birand had asked Erdoğan if he had cancer, during an interview on Jan. 19, to which Erdoğan replied, "No."

February/11/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=338


I didn't have time to make few comments of the above before, so I'll make them now.

I don't know whom do these people are trying to pull the wool over their eyes, but it's not working with me with their illogical reporting on Erdogan's medical condition.

The whole Erdogan's medical stories are getting more and more unbelievable. I had my doubts from the very first reporting but was willing not to jump to conclusions, but more and more I'm beginning to believe that Erdogan does have Cancer or that he was treated for one and that most of these reporting are designed to deflect attention from him having Cancer treatment. I already stated that one does not remove polyps by opening up the patient. The reported 3 hours surgery fits with removal part of his colon which may have had a tumour. This recent half hour surgery, if we really believe it to be just half an hour, then it could be that he had biopsy taken from somewhere in his body, perhaps from a newly discovered nodule (metastasis tumour) or a biopsy from an enlarged Lymph Node. The point is, the explanations they are giving relating to Erdogan's medical condition is becoming almost comical, if it wasn't for the fact that Cancer is a very serious matter and not to be taken lightly, but these silly reporting have become a joke itself, at least to me anyway!
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:27 am

I don't think there is any doubt any longer whether Erdogan has Cancer or not. His medical condition released by WikiLeaks goes well with the 3 hours initial operation he had few months ago, which was to remove part of his Colon, even though it was claimed to have been for the removal of Polyps instead. Clearly that was a bunch of lies as I pointed out that Polyps are not removed with open surgery, but through the rear end by performing Colonoscopy. His second operation recently indicates further removal of Cancer related tissues, which what may have prompted the "two years to live" question on Erdogan.

Of course, Erdogan himself indirectly has also agreed with the report by saying "only Allah knows how long he will live". To me, this is an admission that he has a very serious medical conditional problems. As I've stated from the beginning, that Turks in general are not very forthcoming about their health related issues. They would feel ashamed to admit that they have a very serious illness such as Cancer. It is almost a taboo to admit it. They suffer from image problem of what others will think of them. They lack the courage to admit that they are not super humans. They cannot accept weaknesses, so it's easier to lie and deceive than accept the facts and the truth. Isn't that also what Allah would want Erdogan to do as well, is for him to accept what Allah has in store for him as Allah does for everyone else? I guess not for Erdogan!

Turkish PM dismisses rumors he has only two years to live

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan today dismissed as "impudent" rumors about his health based on an email released by WikiLeaks claiming that he had only two years to live.

"Allah is the owner of our soul," Erdoğan told a meeting of his ruling AKP party in Ankara. "It is Allah and only Allah who will decide how long I will live."

The prime minister, who turned 58 a few weeks ago, has undergone two successive operations on his intestinal system, one on November 26 last year and the second on February 10. A long period of convalescence after the first operation has prevented Erdoğan from traveling overseas, while leading many to speculate on his state of health.

But Erdoğan has repeatedly said that the surgeons had taken out polyps from his intestines and there had been no trace of cancer. A recent batch of emails released by the whistle-blowing website however includes a purported exchange between two colleagues at US intelligence company Stratfor dated December 10, 2011. The email said to be based on information from an "old classmate friend" of the lead surgeon on Erdogan's surgery alleged the Turkish prime minister has colon cancer.

The email said doctors had cut out 20 centimetres (eight inches) of Erdoğan's colon during the first surgery on November 26, describing it as a "really significant operation" and noting that Erdogan would not be able to travel for a while.

"The prognosis is not looking good, though. The surgeon said they were estimating two years for him," the email added, according to the WikiLeaks release.

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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:52 am

Is this for real, that Erdogan was taken to the hospital for few hours to be examined because he had a cold! :shock:

PM Erdoğan goes through medical examination after catching cold

After suffering from a cold, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was taken to Ankara Atatürk Research and Training Hospital for few hours on Tuesday where he went through medical examination.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-309462- ... -cold.html
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby kurupetos » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:18 am

Kikapu wrote:Is this for real, that Erdogan was taken to the hospital for few hours to be examined because he had a cold! :shock:

PM Erdoğan goes through medical examination after catching cold

After suffering from a cold, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was taken to Ankara Atatürk Research and Training Hospital for few hours on Tuesday where he went through medical examination.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-309462- ... -cold.html

It could be hog flu.
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Re: Does Erdogan have Cancer?

Postby Demonax » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:52 pm

One reason for why Erdogan is off his head perhaps:

In November 2011, Erdoğan underwent emergency surgery for the removal of a malignant growth in his intestines. He had a second operation in February 2012. He is now heavily medicated and subject to frequent health checks. The expectation is that his cancer will return. The prognosis is uncertain.

The impact on Erdoğan of the medication and the reminder of his own mortality remain unclear. But, over the last 15 months, he has become more impatient, irascible, authoritarian and hubristic. For someone whose ability to gauge the public mood once made him the most accomplished Turkish politician of his generation, Erdoğan has also started to look dangerously out of touch...


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