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[Piratis]

Funny how Alan believes that it is fine to support ethnic cleansing, stealing of our lands and human rights violations directed indiscriminately against a whole population, but somehow it is "racist" to call him a "piece of shit", when in fact that is exactly what he is based on the racist, criminal actions which he supports. Those who support such atrocious crimes the last thing they can expect is to be treated politely by the victims of those crimes.

Civilized people do not tolerate racist crime supporters such as Alan. There can be no tolerance to ethnic cleansing, no tolerance to racist discriminations, no tolerance in illegal occupation and therefore no tolerance to people like Alan who support such disgusting crimes against us.

We are in war with Turkey, they occupy 1/3rd of our territory and violate our rights. If Alan lives in Britain he should ask the people there how they felt about the Nazis when they were in war with them. Did the British love the Nazis, where they polite about them? And the Nazis didn't even occupy Britain, they didn't ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of the population. If the British were justified to hate the German Nazis then we are 10 times as much justified to hate the Turkish Nazis like Alan.

So Alan, you are hated and rightly so. Our hate toward you and your Nazi gang is a result of your criminal actions against us. If you want us to stop hating you then do what the Germans did. Stop your crimes, stop illegally occupying our lands, respect our human rights and the sovereignty of our country, apologize, and then we can be good friends, like the British and the Germans are now. The Germans had to lose a war to realize how wrong they were, and unfortunately it seems that the same is true for many Turks. They will remain the arrogant criminal racists that they are, until they lose the war.

[Bananiot]

Jerry, I would be happy to introduce them to you, seriously. Then you can decide for your self. I have come across more decency in the north (from ordinary people) than you would ever imagine.

[supporttheunderdog]

IQuite rightly there is no love at all for (1) Tur*ey for their invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and the horrors they then inflicted on the Cypriot peop, inetc. lecluding rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, (2) the illegal settlers and their carpet bagger associates who are illegaly living in properties that are still klegally owned by Kypreos, and the leaders of the illegal regime.

I am too amd inclined to view those who support the continued occupation as peices of shit, but by the same token I dont have a much better view of the Eoka B loving Enosis supporters.

(now watch the crticism (if not insults) flow from the Oracle/GIG's, Youlosers, the Kurupetos, etc )

[Pyrpolizer]

IQuite rightly there is no love at all for (1) Tur*ey for their invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and the horrors they then inflicted on the Cypriot peop, inetc. lecluding rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, (2) the illegal settlers and their carpet bagger associates who are illegaly living in properties that are still klegally owned by Kypreos, and the leaders of the illegal regime.

I am too amd inclined to view those who support the continued occupation as peices of shit, but by the same token I dont have a much better view of the Eoka B loving Enosis supporters.

(now watch the crticism (if not insults) flow from the Oracle/GIG's, Youlosers, the Kurupetos, etc )

Hold on for a minute are you Alan having 2 different nicks?

[Piratis]

IQuite rightly there is no love at all for (1) Tur*ey for their invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and the horrors they then inflicted on the Cypriot peop, inetc. lecluding rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, (2) the illegal settlers and their carpet bagger associates who are illegaly living in properties that are still klegally owned by Kypreos, and the leaders of the illegal regime.

I am too amd inclined to view those who support the continued occupation as peices of shit, but by the same token I dont have a much better view of the Eoka B loving Enosis supporters.

(now watch the crticism (if not insults) flow from the Oracle/GIG's, Youlosers, the Kurupetos, etc )

EOKA B were pieces of shit as well, since they were a small minority of people who collaborated with the facsist regime of Athens Junta in an effort to bring down the democratically elected goverment of Cyprus and impose by force their rule.

On the other hand the Enosis ideal until the 50s and early 60s was supported by the vast majority of the Cypriot people and it was nothing more than the right of the Cypriot people to democratically determine the destiny of their own island after being decolonized.

[B25]

IQuite rightly there is no love at all for (1) Tur*ey for their invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and the horrors they then inflicted on the Cypriot peop, inetc. lecluding rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, (2) the illegal settlers and their carpet bagger associates who are illegaly living in properties that are still klegally owned by Kypreos, and the leaders of the illegal regime.

I am too amd inclined to view those who support the continued occupation as peices of shit, but by the same token I dont have a much better view of the Eoka B loving Enosis supporters.

(now watch the crticism (if not insults) flow from the Oracle/GIG's, Youlosers, the Kurupetos, etc )

Hold on for a minute are you Alan having 2 different nicks?

No STUD used to have a dog avatar, but changed it to the Union Jack. Confused me as well for a min, I thought Alan had come about

STUD, I demand you change that avatar back..... Pleaseeeeeee.

[Jerry]

Jerry, I would be happy to introduce them to you, seriously. Then you can decide for your self. I have come across more decency in the north (from ordinary people) than you would ever imagine.

I won't be in Cyprus for some time Bananiot. I did meet some earlier this year, some were OK some others were intimidating when they saw the ROC registration on the car. I never had the opportunity to engage them in serious conversations about their attitude to GCs and question the exploitation of our property.

How on earth can TCs expect genuine reunification and friendship after they have violated (probably irreversibly) our right to our property? Because they can hide behind mother Turkey they drive around in new cars bought with our money and yet you claim they want our friendship, please ask them to explain this anomaly.

[Bananiot]

If it is about generalisations, I really do not have the time for this game Jerry. There was a time when we were on top and the way we behaved does not bestow much to be admired, as you know. There was a time when we hid behind mother Greece and the 10 000 soldiers that came over and gave hell to the ordinary TCs, who were forced to become refugees, more than once during the period between 1963 and 1974. Practically we forced them to ask for protection from mother Turkey and this was not a mistake. It was a strategic move to make them feel Turkish rather than Cypriot because we wanted to monopolise the title. Now, some forumers, warn the TCs that they stand to lose their Cypriotness. I think survival is more important than any given title. Human nature, nothing more, nothing less.

[AEKTZIS]

^^

There were also 300 years when the Turks were on top. This period of Cypriot history has kindly been forgotten by everyone, and the current Cypriot AKEL government is all supportive of forgetting the suffering we went through under Ottomans in Cyprus. Thankfully, I have my family history documented and archived so I can actually look to written documents and get some idea of how we suffered at the hands of the Turks brutally.

You see how this game works? You can say the Greeks did bad things, did you forget that the Turks slaughtered thousands of people ruthlessly in the 19th century????

My great great great grandfather was imprisoned as mouxtaris of his village, for no reason. This was on 9 July 1821. He escaped from prison on a night where 4000 Cypriots were executed. Over the next months, Turks came from Syria, raped looted and ransacked villages, murdered thousands. In subsequent years, entire villages were "Turkified" - forced to become Muslim.

I am simply mentioning this to show that your argument does not hold and has no basis. Everyitme you mention something, I can mention something too.

[halil]

Jerry, I would be happy to introduce them to you, seriously. Then you can decide for your self. I have come across more decency in the north (from ordinary people) than you would ever imagine.

I won't be in Cyprus for some time Bananiot. I did meet some earlier this year, some were OK some others were intimidating when they saw the ROC registration on the car. I never had the opportunity to engage them in serious conversations about their attitude to GCs and question the exploitation of our property.

How on earth can TCs expect genuine reunification and friendship after they have violated (probably irreversibly) our right to our property? Because they can hide behind mother Turkey they drive around in new cars bought with our money and yet you claim they want our friendship, please ask them to explain this anomaly.

Jerry ,
Cyprus problem or not to trust does not have any relation with property....property is not that much important ...more than 25000 TC's were left their properties during the 63-74 to live in better and safe places...TC's lived 11 years in enclaves....without electricity and lots of things ...why ? for their own security. For their own security they became again second or third time refugees after 74....because of Cyprus problem not solved between parties (GC's and TC's) and took such a long time we had this property problem today...in 2004 great majority of TC's said we are ready to move from GC's properties and they were doing it for future of the Cyprus. Problem with your people what we have or had belongs to u....u never think what u have also belongs to us...u are forgetting this part of it. what ever we are trying to do always blocked by your leaders. No more choice was left to us...to support our lives we needed roads, electricity, income, import,export the goods and Turkey was the only our exit to world and still it is . We all know one day Turkey will go back before Turkey goes back we want workable solution in Cyprus and never never again we will have 64-67-74's.....majority of us thinking BBF solution will be the only good solution for us. there is no guarantees that Federal solution is also going to work...that's why our leadership is working very hard ...very hard to never had the past events.