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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:44 am

Call on Turkey by Iran:

Iran threatens to hit Turkey if US, Israel attack

Saturday, November 26, 2011
TEHRAN - The Associated Press
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-26
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:33 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed, China is a middle country and a good neighbour with Turkey, like Brazil and Pakistan; they are players in a war that will need finance and material, for control of the wider political-geographic sphere of asia near and not so far.

...yup dumb old Usa will they run to the lowest bidder, or 'betray' them, their defence jobber Turkey, which is more than willing (it seems) what with the new radar installation, it will be interesting if this melds with Russia's naval designs in Syria for a port there; who will be fighting who for/against what?

...but it gets more complicated with so many blocks opening, especially if december's report for gaz are stellar.

@ b, dude! hi,eh.


Hiya,dear RW...good to see you fighting fit.... :)
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby helsingfors » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:46 pm

kimon07 wrote:Call on Turkey by Iran:

Iran threatens to hit Turkey if US, Israel attack

Saturday, November 26, 2011
TEHRAN - The Associated Press
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-26


Too bad ally Greece will not be able to show up to defend Turkey. They can't even afford to pay the fuel for their F16s. :mrgreen:
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby AWE » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:59 pm

Iran won't attack Turkey, to do so will be an attack against a NATO member and therefore trigger the mutual defence clause.

If Iran were to then that would give the USA et al the excuse to attack Iran that some are suggesting it is looking for and Iran knows it. Additionally, few of the Sunni gulf states will have much of a problem with a US retaliation, the UNSC or GA won't be in a position to veto any action and neither PRC or Russia will be in a position to do much about it even if they wanted to.

That said Israel is not in the best position to attack Iran and the USA is not going to initiate anything so it is all hot air.
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:38 pm

AWE wrote:Iran won't attack Turkey, to do so will be an attack against a NATO member and therefore trigger the mutual defence clause.

Yeah, we all saw the power of that when NATO recently announced that Turkey was on her own when Erdogan started getting cocky in the Med! :lol:
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby AWE » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:56 pm

did you read the article?

Iran will target NATO's missile defense installations in Turkey if the U.S. or Israel attacks the Islamic Republic, a senior commander of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard said Saturday.


Iran is going to attack a NATO instillation not Turkey as such, so do you think NATO will let that go?
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:32 pm

AWE wrote:did you read the article?

Iran will target NATO's missile defense installations in Turkey if the U.S. or Israel attacks the Islamic Republic, a senior commander of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard said Saturday.


Iran is going to attack a NATO instillation not Turkey as such, so do you think NATO will let that go?


Are the installations not on "Turkish sovereign" territory, then? Isn't an attack on any *voluntarily or approvingly installed sites, within Turkey, an attack on Turkey and its policies?

[ * voluntarily - because an attack on SBAs is NOT an attack on the RoC in the same vein as NATO bases.]
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:37 pm

helsingfors wrote:
kimon07 wrote:Call on Turkey by Iran:

Iran threatens to hit Turkey if US, Israel attack

Saturday, November 26, 2011
TEHRAN - The Associated Press
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-26


Too bad ally Greece will not be able to show up to defend Turkey. They can't even afford to pay the fuel for their F16s. :mrgreen:


Your fault again. They are spending what fuel they have left chasing "allied" Turkish F-16s all over the Aegean.
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:52 pm

kimon07 wrote:
helsingfors wrote:
kimon07 wrote:Call on Turkey by Iran:

Iran threatens to hit Turkey if US, Israel attack

Saturday, November 26, 2011
TEHRAN - The Associated Press
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-26


Too bad ally Greece will not be able to show up to defend Turkey. They can't even afford to pay the fuel for their F16s. :mrgreen:


Your fault again. They are spending what fuel they have left chasing "allied" Turkish F-16s all over the Aegean.

I guess they are pretty tied up then! :lol:
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Re: When the going gets tough! call on Turkey to sort it out

Postby AWE » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:57 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
AWE wrote:did you read the article?

Iran will target NATO's missile defense installations in Turkey if the U.S. or Israel attacks the Islamic Republic, a senior commander of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard said Saturday.


Iran is going to attack a NATO instillation not Turkey as such, so do you think NATO will let that go?


Are the installations not on "Turkish sovereign" territory, then? Isn't an attack on any *voluntarily or approvingly installed sites, within Turkey, an attack on Turkey and its policies?

[ * voluntarily - because an attack on SBAs is NOT an attack on the RoC in the same vein as NATO bases.]


Yes, but GR thinks that NATO will let Turkey go it alone, what do you think?
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