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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Piratis » Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:59 am

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To be a GC and accept the Annan plan you have to either be a fool, or trust Turkey. Actually if you trust Turkey it means you are a fool.


The above says it all. First he thinks that 100 000 GCs who voted for solution are fools and secondly, and perhaps most important, he claims that we are fools to trust Turkey and therefore we should have nothing to do with this country. Then, he expects the balance of power to change (I presume in our favour) in order to solve the issue the way we want (always in the name of morality and justice of course). In the meantime, he advises us to stay as we are (here is where Heraclitus the obscure comes in) but, like Hermes, he does not realise that things have been changing to our detriment since 1974 and there is no indication that this trend will reverse. Serious politicians from all parties understand this very well (Stylianides of DISI springs to mind) but when the patriotic drums of those that brought us this disaster in the first place (always in the name of patriotism) beat their tune day and night (seconded by the Archbishop, who is now on the look for a presidential candidate for 2013), there is no room for rationality, and this spells more misery for us.

But, fools, do not worry. We can always lay the blame on the foreigners, whose only concern is to destroy Cyprus, for they have nothing more serious to do.


My position is 100% rational and based on facts. You have no arguments to refute my position and all you can do is repeating the Turkish threats.

The only party which accepted the Annan plan was DISY, and even they have now regretted their choice and are ashamed of it.

The problems in Cyprus are caused by the invaders (for whom aparently Cyprus is important enough to send their troops and Settlers here to take our lands) and by traitors like yourself who collaborate with the invaders.

To our detriment was the invasion of 1974. Since then things have vastly improved for us (excluding the last few years which your President of choice screwed up). Economically we achieved what was described as a miracle, and from a poor colony we were transformed into a modern European country which can almost be compared with our Western European counterparts in EU. We have a solid multi-party democracy and we are close to what a modern civilized country should be.

What I want is for my country to progress further, not to regress by forcing some undemocratic racist system akin to apartheid, destroy our economy and reduce our freedoms to the level of the Kurds. If we can have this progress on the whole of Cyprus that would be ideal and we will continue our struggle for this. If not, then better to have 2/3rds of Cyprus free and democratic, rather than regress to the era of the Ottomans when we were not allowed to rule any of our own lands.
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:00 pm

You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:17 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Kikapu » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:23 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.


How many GCs married TC's before 1960 in Cyprus? :roll:

If you believe otherwise, then you should be happy that the AP failed. :roll:

Not only that, you shouldn't support any kind of a settlement, specially a BBF, because in time, you will win with your above scenario, so why aren't you happy by keeping quite about it? :roll:

Don't tell me you are trying to protect the GCs long term interest by warning them, are you? :lol:
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.


Viewpoint,
I wonder if you ever came across it,but many times in the past I said,in gest,that if it was upto me I would forbid all Cypriots to marry withing their own ethnic group,and must marry someone from another ethnic gruop,be it TC,Armenian,Maronite,Roman whatever...Cyprus problem would disappear within 2 generations... :D
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby AlanwithoneL » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:34 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.


How many GCs married TC's before 1960 in Cyprus? :roll:

If you believe otherwise, then you should be happy that the AP failed. :roll:

Not only that, you shouldn't support any kind of a settlement, specially a BBF, because in time, you will win with your above scenario, so why aren't you happy by keeping quite about it? :roll:

Don't tell me you are trying to protect the GCs long term interest by warning them, are you? :lol:


That was back in 1960. How many mixed marriages or mixed race kids did you see back then? Look around you now and see the number of mixed marriages and mixed race kids now. Kikapu, all you do is say exactly what the Greeks want to hear. I cant believe you can take this attitude just so that you can have immunity from Greek insults. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED MAN.
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:39 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.


How many GCs married TC's before 1960 in Cyprus? :roll:

If you believe otherwise, then you should be happy that the AP failed. :roll:

Not only that, you shouldn't support any kind of a settlement, specially a BBF, because in time, you will win with your above scenario, so why aren't you happy by keeping quite about it? :roll:

Don't tell me you are trying to protect the GCs long term interest by warning them, are you? :lol:


Hey Kikapoo were we on chatting terms?? anyway without a solution what does it matter, in the past there were no new generation TCs so there were not many intermarriages plus it was discouraged, over time they will mingle with the youth of the south and GCs families will have to accept mixed marriages between GC and new generation TCs their worst enemy. Im stating facts if the GCs want to stop interaction thats their business.
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:01 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done...It is all figment of your paranoid imaginations....The TCs are hungry and thirsty to determine their own fates,and they will jump at the opportunity to stand on their own 2 feet...There might not be very many original TCs left in Cyprus,but there are tens of thousands in the dispora ,most of whom would seriously consider returning permanently after a solution...And we in the diaspora owe nothing to Turkey personally as most of us had left by the end of 60s....

Get a grip on yourselves...You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???
The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004,so all you managed to do was to add fuel to the Turkification fire...Congratulations...If you think the green line is going to be enough to contain Half a million settlers you have another thing coming...You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships...But I am sure you,lovers and respectors of human rights and equal opportunity,think you would find a way of keeping the younger generations apart...You are in for a BIGGGGG SHOCKKKKK


Great post Bir, I have state this before, just as over the years Tcs children ahve been marrying Turks, this will happen in the south...on a recent visit south walking down Ledra ı noticed youngsters from both sides chatting the accent of the kids from the north were mainland Turkey......the Gcs girls looked very interested to know more and have fun...so as you say if the people in the south think they can stop this natural process ı think they have as you say a very very very big shock in store. Maybe Piratis and Hermes will have a new generation TC marry their son or daughter.....mind blowing dont you think???? human rights for all.


Viewpoint,
I wonder if you ever came across it,but many times in the past I said,in gest,that if it was upto me I would forbid all Cypriots to marry withing their own ethnic group,and must marry someone from another ethnic gruop,be it TC,Armenian,Maronite,Roman whatever...Cyprus problem would disappear within 2 generations... :D


Yes Bir I did read this, maybe thats the best solution.
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Piratis » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 pm

You keep saying if there is/was an agreement in the form of a BBF Turkey would end up controlling the whole of Cyprus,but you do not say how this will be done


I did: cyprus36316-100.html#p697539

You rejected the AP because that would legalise a certain number of settlers...and would lead to the Turkification of the North...Well,did it stop it???


Yes we did. Both the occupation of the north part of Cyprus and the Settlers remain illegal.

The situation is 10 times worse now than in 2004


Nothing changed for us since 2004 in this respect. It would be 10 times worst if we had accepted the Annan plan.

You b etter lock up your sons and daughters...Because your grandchildren will be Turkified slowly as a result of mixed marriages and de facto relationships


How will that happen when all the Settlers are restricted in the north part of Cyprus? Personally I've never been to the occupied areas neither I have any interest in doing so. Almost a decade after the opening of the crossings and personally I don't know of any cases of inter-marriages between GCs and Settlers. If such cases exist they are very few, an insignificant number compared with inter-marriages of Cypriots with members of other nationalities (who, in the case of living in Cyprus, are Greekified)
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Re: Banana oil from a Bananiot

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:42 pm

The settlers as you refer to them are gradually coming accross and meeting up with your youth even having relations, youth nowadays chat over the net and meet up in the south or the north I know of a Turk who has been living in the north for 7 years who is having a relationship with a GC lady he met over the net, they meet regularly. Plus as I said when in Ledra st last week I heard Turkish which was a dialect form Turkey they were together with youth from the south.
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