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[Piratis]

We know that unless a solution is found soon,not only the unique TC identity and character would be extinguished in the North, but the unique GC identity and independence in the South would be threatened

How would the GC identity be threatened?

We want a solution more than anyone else. Unfortunately what you demand is anything but a solution for us. What you want is just to solve your own problems which are a consequence of your illegal occupation of our lands, by some arrangement which would merely legalize your illegalities and crimes. Such thing might be a solution to you, but it is definitely not a solution to us. Solution for us means liberation of the 1/3rd of Cyprus which is currently under occupation, removal of the Turkish Army and Settlers, so our human rights will be restored and we can democratically rule our whole island.

You must have a mind,Piratis,think...Without a solution you will have millions of settlers permanently in the trnc...They will need water and electricity to survive into the future...And so will you...Before long you will depend on the trnc and Turkey for everything,including water,and clean air...air because these "new TCs" will have to be accommodated economically,and that means large scale industrialisation over the next 50 years...That mean air pollution,and great drainage of water and other natural resources...It won't be too long before the ROC becomes the BigTaiwan to trnc's Little Taiwan...Think man think...Not all battles are won by the gun...

Bir, what you say is unrealistic. Cyprus in general has no competitive advantage to accommodate large scale industrialization. None of our water flows south from the north. It is rainwater, mostly from Troodos, and desalination plants.

I think you are really desperate. You want us to sacrifice ourselves in an attempt to save your own community from extinction. Sorry Bir but we can't do that. And even if we tried with the "solutions" you support, the result would not be saving the TC community, but fucking up the whole of Cyprus.

If you want to save your own community then you should direct your efforts in convincing your community that they should stop being the puppets of Turkey and that it is for their own interest to lower their demands to an acceptable for us level. You will have far more valid arguments to support this position rather than trying to convince us about millions of Settlers, large scale industrialization and air pollution.

The Settlers will never be in the many millions, but they can certainly be 10 times more than the TCs, and all of them could be given the so called "trnc citizenship". This "citizenship" means absolutely nothing for us, but for the TCs it will mean that while Turkey will be taking all the decisions for the strategic and important issues (as it is now), the Anatolian peasants will be deciding for everything else that affects your daily life (something which didn't happen yet, but it will).

Piratis,don't fool yourself...There is already over 1 Million settlers in the trnc...and given their rate of reproduction I will not be surprised if the population reaches 5 million by 2051...
By then there will be a Taiwan style industrial revolution in the North,and you will breath in the results every time you step outside your homes...When Cyprus dries up as a result of population explotion and global warming,you will need to share the showers with the "Anatolian peasants" as you call them,to save water...When you are in the shower make sure you hang on tightly to the soap...

"industrial revolution "? Sorry Bir but I have no time for jokes right now The only thing you can manage by brining more Anatolians is not any "industrial revolution" but more unemployment and problems for your own community.

[aikhme]

We know that unless a solution is found soon,not only the unique TC identity and character would be extinguished in the North, but the unique GC identity and independence in the South would be threatened

How would the GC identity be threatened?

We want a solution more than anyone else. Unfortunately what you demand is anything but a solution for us. What you want is just to solve your own problems which are a consequence of your illegal occupation of our lands, by some arrangement which would merely legalize your illegalities and crimes. Such thing might be a solution to you, but it is definitely not a solution to us. Solution for us means liberation of the 1/3rd of Cyprus which is currently under occupation, removal of the Turkish Army and Settlers, so our human rights will be restored and we can democratically rule our whole island.

You must have a mind,Piratis,think...Without a solution you will have millions of settlers permanently in the trnc...They will need water and electricity to survive into the future...And so will you...Before long you will depend on the trnc and Turkey for everything,including water,and clean air...air because these "new TCs" will have to be accommodated economically,and that means large scale industrialisation over the next 50 years...That mean air pollution,and great drainage of water and other natural resources...It won't be too long before the ROC becomes the BigTaiwan to trnc's Little Taiwan...Think man think...Not all battles are won by the gun...

Bir, what you say is unrealistic. Cyprus in general has no competitive advantage to accommodate large scale industrialization. None of our water flows south from the north. It is rainwater, mostly from Troodos, and desalination plants.

I think you are really desperate. You want us to sacrifice ourselves in an attempt to save your own community from extinction. Sorry Bir but we can't do that. And even if we tried with the "solutions" you support, the result would not be saving the TC community, but fucking up the whole of Cyprus.

If you want to save your own community then you should direct your efforts in convincing your community that they should stop being the puppets of Turkey and that it is for their own interest to lower their demands to an acceptable for us level. You will have far more valid arguments to support this position rather than trying to convince us about millions of Settlers, large scale industrialization and air pollution.

The Settlers will never be in the many millions, but they can certainly be 10 times more than the TCs, and all of them could be given the so called "trnc citizenship". This "citizenship" means absolutely nothing for us, but for the TCs it will mean that while Turkey will be taking all the decisions for the strategic and important issues (as it is now), the Anatolian peasants will be deciding for everything else that affects your daily life (something which didn't happen yet, but it will).

Piratis,don't fool yourself...There is already over 1 Million settlers in the trnc...and given their rate of reproduction I will not be surprised if the population reaches 5 million by 2051...
By then there will be a Taiwan style industrial revolution in the North,and you will breath in the results every time you step outside your homes...When Cyprus dries up as a result of population explotion and global warming,you will need to share the showers with the "Anatolian peasants" as you call them,to save water...When you are in the shower make sure you hang on tightly to the soap...

Bir is trying to be funny.

I million settlers, and what are they doing to etch a living? Are they picking oranges?

[Viewpoint]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further. You moronic GCs need to wake up and get a grip...its this assimilation that will be your down fall in the future, we are Turkish in origin and after many more years of assimilation how will differentiate between 2nd 3rd 4th generation born in north Turkish Cypriots? I work with second generation intermarriage Tc and Turk whos child has just married a Turk.....how will you tell these people to go back. We have Turkish roots you do not so therefore in short you are stuffed, as you will be the ones begging for agreed partition so as not to take on the growing population in the north as one man one vote would mean quite basically you are fucked as their next step would be to marry your daughters and son to produce "Cypriot" offspring....how will you stop them?

So you Gcs who keep using this as some sort of threat sound very very stupid indeed. In Turkish there is a saying "ok yaydan çıkdı" which sums up the situation quite nicely.

[B25]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further. You moronic GCs need to wake up and get a grip...its this assimilation that will be your down fall in the future, we are Turkish in origin and after many more years of assimilation how will differentiate between 2nd 3rd 4th generation born in north Turkish Cypriots? I work with second generation intermarriage Tc and Turk whos child has just married a Turk.....how will you tell these people to go back. We have Turkish roots you do not so therefore in short you are stuffed, as you will be the ones begging for agreed partition so as not to take on the growing population in the north as one man one vote would mean quite basically you are fucked as their next step would be to marry your daughters and son to produce "Cypriot" offspring....how will you stop them?

So you Gcs who keep using this as some sort of threat sound very very stupid indeed. In Turkish there is a saying "ok yaydan çıkdı" which sums up the situation quite nicely.

Keep on wet dreaming you facist, partitionist, racist, barbarian prick!
your threats are only good for wiping ones arse.

Here Birkturk, Bananiot, our future with the barbarians, you chose, as we are or join this despicable plonker.

[Viewpoint]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further. You moronic GCs need to wake up and get a grip...its this assimilation that will be your down fall in the future, we are Turkish in origin and after many more years of assimilation how will differentiate between 2nd 3rd 4th generation born in north Turkish Cypriots? I work with second generation intermarriage Tc and Turk whos child has just married a Turk.....how will you tell these people to go back. We have Turkish roots you do not so therefore in short you are stuffed, as you will be the ones begging for agreed partition so as not to take on the growing population in the north as one man one vote would mean quite basically you are fucked as their next step would be to marry your daughters and son to produce "Cypriot" offspring....how will you stop them?

So you Gcs who keep using this as some sort of threat sound very very stupid indeed. In Turkish there is a saying "ok yaydan çıkdı" which sums up the situation quite nicely.

Keep on wet dreaming you facist, partitionist, racist, barbarian prick!
your threats are only good for wiping ones arse.

Here Birkturk, Bananiot, our future with the barbarians, you chose, as we are or join this despicable plonker.

Facts are fact however bitter, time you understood whats just around the corner.

[B25]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further. You moronic GCs need to wake up and get a grip...its this assimilation that will be your down fall in the future, we are Turkish in origin and after many more years of assimilation how will differentiate between 2nd 3rd 4th generation born in north Turkish Cypriots? I work with second generation intermarriage Tc and Turk whos child has just married a Turk.....how will you tell these people to go back. We have Turkish roots you do not so therefore in short you are stuffed, as you will be the ones begging for agreed partition so as not to take on the growing population in the north as one man one vote would mean quite basically you are fucked as their next step would be to marry your daughters and son to produce "Cypriot" offspring....how will you stop them?

So you Gcs who keep using this as some sort of threat sound very very stupid indeed. In Turkish there is a saying "ok yaydan çıkdı" which sums up the situation quite nicely.

Keep on wet dreaming you facist, partitionist, racist, barbarian prick!
your threats are only good for wiping ones arse.

Here Birkturk, Bananiot, our future with the barbarians, you chose, as we are or join this despicable plonker.

Facts are fact however bitter, time you understood whats just around the corner.

When the bully knows he is beaten all he can do is retreat and offer empty threats to save face. It's ok, you can retreat we won't mock you Oops, did I just laugh.

Look around you, turkey has been humiliated by the international community almost on a daily basis, even little old Cyprus can stop her going to talks
She is not the super power you or she are wet dreaming, she is a nobody, bully with empty threats. I am willing to wait another 50 years, bring it on, some how I think you will be gone before that. Ciao.

[Viewpoint]

So you use threats constantly and see yourself as heros but when you decide that what we say are threats we are retreating bullies. You are a hypocrite of the worst kind.

[B25]

So you use threats constantly and see yourself as heros but when you decide that what we say are threats we are retreating bullies. You are a hypocrite of the worst kind.

Whatever.

[Get Real!]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further.

That's exactly why there can never be "dual states" or anything handed on a plate to Turkey.

I'm glad you finally realize that nothing short of LIBERATION makes sense for us!

[Viewpoint]

Lets get this they will swallow you up bullshit cleared up once and for all, the Turkish revolution in the north started in 1974, we accepted this and today our children study in Turkey, they marry Turks, they talk Turkish, they have children with Turks and people are still going on about they are will eat you alive, its already happened, its to late, we have and continue to assimilate further and further.

That's exactly why there can never be "dual states" or anything handed on a plate to Turkey.

I'm glad you finally realize that nothing short of LIBERATION makes sense for us!

So your solution is to start a war and absorb a population as large as your own??? well done did you have think long and hard about that one? tick tock...