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[Viewpoint]

So I am still waiting to be persuaded to demand union with GCs in the EU and tell Turkey to leave us alone. You GCs talk out of your arses all hot air.

Well if you feel the "GCs talk out of your arses all hot air" ... why don't you step outside your front door and ask your fellow CYs living directly under the "Orrible Occupation why they are telling Turkey to "Go Asihktir", demanding Re-Unification, demanding Regime Change and who have had enough of the False Promises from Turkey and its Settler Dominated Regime ... perhaps they could convince you.

Where are they now? and why should they provide concrete reasons why we need to unite with the GCs?

[Hermes]

So I am still waiting to be persuaded to demand union with GCs in the EU and tell Turkey to leave us alone. You GCs talk out of your arses all hot air.

Well if you feel the "GCs talk out of your arses all hot air" ... why don't you step outside your front door and ask your fellow CYs living directly under the "Orrible Occupation why they are telling Turkey to "Go Asihktir", demanding Re-Unification, demanding Regime Change and who have had enough of the False Promises from Turkey and its Settler Dominated Regime ... perhaps they could convince you.

Where are they now? and why should they provide concrete reasons why we need to unite with the GCs?

Er, VP. Can you tell me what your plan is to avoid a unified, federal state within the EU? Or "uniting with the GCs" as you call it. Because I'm not aware that any other option is on the table.

[Viewpoint]

So I am still waiting to be persuaded to demand union with GCs in the EU and tell Turkey to leave us alone. You GCs talk out of your arses all hot air.

Well if you feel the "GCs talk out of your arses all hot air" ... why don't you step outside your front door and ask your fellow CYs living directly under the "Orrible Occupation why they are telling Turkey to "Go Asihktir", demanding Re-Unification, demanding Regime Change and who have had enough of the False Promises from Turkey and its Settler Dominated Regime ... perhaps they could convince you.

Where are they now? and why should they provide concrete reasons why we need to unite with the GCs?

Er, VP. Can you tell me what your plan is to avoid a unified, federal state within the EU? Or "uniting with the GCs" as you call it. Because I'm not aware that any other option is on the table.

I dont have to do anything, you are doing enough to keep us divided...how long do you need to understand this?

[Get Real!]

I disappear for a day and the forum is partitioned again!

Just when I was so close to closing a deal with VP!

[Viewpoint]

I disappear for a day and the forum is partitioned again!

Just when I was so close to closing a deal with VP!

Can we have a recap of the deal as I'm not convinced?

[Get Real!]

I disappear for a day and the forum is partitioned again!

Just when I was so close to closing a deal with VP!

Can we have a recap of the deal as I'm not convinced?

I think it went something like… you take the whole of Cyprus and I go kill myself, with the burial expenses covered by the EU!

I figured it’s the only deal you’ll ever accept!

[repulsewarrior]

So I am still waiting to be persuaded to demand union with GCs in the EU and tell Turkey to leave us alone. You GCs talk out of your arses all hot air.

Well if you feel the "GCs talk out of your arses all hot air" ... why don't you step outside your front door and ask your fellow CYs living directly under the "Orrible Occupation why they are telling Turkey to "Go Asihktir", demanding Re-Unification, demanding Regime Change and who have had enough of the False Promises from Turkey and its Settler Dominated Regime ... perhaps they could convince you.

Where are they now? and why should they provide concrete reasons why we need to unite with the GCs?

viewpoint, often i have to wonder where you place Humanity on the scale of identities you sustain. who are "those" GCs you are so willy nillie about?

...look around you, and welcome back; if i am a GC (or not a TC), am i to be hated (mistrusted)?

...and those in Occupy, are they Traitors, because they choose the land they love above being "Greek" or "Turk".

...what is Bicommunal? it is not something cut in two by definition, Bizonal is the same; i know you are smart enough to understand that,
but have you the courage to stand up for Universal Values above your singular national values, grateful that their Principals flung us into this Age where our hatred can be focused not against each other, but against the real enemies that haunt us, like Ignorance, and Disease. I challenge you to stand up for one State, because it is the only way Cypriots can defend their Sovereign Rights amongst the interlocutors. Demand a Government of Cyprus which defends us its Citizens as Individuals without discrimination. Challenge the "Greeks" to form their own National Assembly, toward this end, where within a Territorial Jurisdiction they can provide services as a Majority, like a Turkish constituent, its equal, freeing our Federal Government from this bias. challenge the Maronites, and Armenians too, they should be as proud as the Turks are now for their Heritance, they should be able to represent themselves toward sustaining their Identity as a daily life, so that within this Union, the Rights of Persons can be demonstrated by us, as this island's dwellers toward each other. Bizonal means many and one, it does not mean 'two'. Bicommunal in essence has nothing to do with Turk/Greek, it has to do with our Identity as Persons, and as Individuals.

Cyprus Free: (at least) three Governing bodies; one Capital

...you really should consider reading my manifesto.

cheers!

[Nikitas]

Bananiot has a steady and unwavering approach to the Cyprus issue: Turkey's intransigence is a foregone conclusion to which all others must adapt.

VP says that the TCs see no reason to UNITE with the GCs. Who has ever asked them to do that since 1977 when the BBF principle was co signed? There is not a single political party or public figure on the GC side asking for such a UNIFICATION.

BBF is partition put in polite terms. BIZONAL ie geographically separate, BICOMMUNAL, ie ethnically separate, FEDERATION, and that last bit is what the argument is really about even if VP pretends not to understand it. Essentially it is the GCs who do not want to unite with Turkey and the Federation thing is one way to prevent this unification.

Two out of three is not bad VP. So do not whinge.

[Viewpoint]

I disappear for a day and the forum is partitioned again!

Just when I was so close to closing a deal with VP!

Can we have a recap of the deal as I'm not convinced?

I think it went something like… you take the whole of Cyprus and I go kill myself, with the burial expenses covered by the EU!

I figured it’s the only deal you’ll ever accept!

Your wrong, unlike GCs and their enosis dream I dont want the whole island, I am happy sharing. Plus I do not want anyone to get hurt let alone die that includes you. Why cant you share?