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[kimon07]

The professional blackmailers are returning to their good old tactics again:

"Turkish Cypriot President ( ) Derviş Eroğlu on Thursday warned that the peace summit at the UN in January will be the “last chance” to reach a settlement in ongoing Cyprus negotiations, urging both the UN and the EU to push the Greek side to commit to finding a comprehensive solution.

In opening remarks during the international* symposium on isolation under way in Nicosia, the Turkish Cypriot leader said the UN and the EU should motivate the Greek Cypriots to seek a genuine solution to the divided island by lifting the embargos on the Turkish side and ending the isolation of the Turkish part of the island.
“As long as there is isolation on the Turkish side, the Greek Cypriot leadership will have no incentive to pursue a real settlement,” Eroğlu noted. He said he raised the issue with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon during an October meeting in New York. “I told him that we have been negotiating everything with the Greek Cypriots for four decades now. It is time to bring these talks to a conclusion,” he said.
The summit in January will be held first between the two community leaders. If talks are successful, the summit will pave the way for what Ban described as a "multi-lateral conference," a gathering that would include, among others, the guarantor powers of Cypriot sovereignty, which are Turkey, Great Britain and Greece.
During meetings with senior EU officials in Brussels last week, Eroğlu echoed a similar sentiment, saying: “I conveyed the same message to EU Commission President José Manuel Barroso, Enlargement Commissioner Štefan Füle and President of the Socialist Group in the European Parliament Martin Schultz. They say they share our grievances and agree with our concerns. But we did not see any action afterwards.”
“The EU needs to motivate the Greek Cypriots by ending the isolation of the Turkish side,” Eroğlu added.
Blocked by EU-member Greek Cyprus, the Turkish side cannot engage in direct trade with EU members, and direct international flights to Ercan Airport, except from Turkey, are not possible. Nevertheless, Eroğlu vowed that the economy on the Turkish side is picking up with more industrial products making their way to international markets. Some 50,000 students enrolled in universities in the north, and tourism revenues are on the rise, Eroğlu noted. “Despite [its] isolation and embargo, we have to find ways to shore up our economy and stand on our own feet. Greece and the Greek Cypriots are struggling to deal with the economic crisis. This may be a good opportunity to assert the Turkish Cypriots' legitimate demands in international platforms,” he explained.
Eroğlu also noted that the Turkish side sees an opportunity to solve outstanding issues with the Greek Cypriots on the eve of the latter's assumption of the rotating the EU presidency in July 2012. “This may be a good occasion to solve our differences. But if the Greek side wants to use this presidency to further isolate the Turkish Cypriots, we cannot accept this approach. The presidency should represent both communities on the island,” he said.
Turkey has already warned the EU that it will freeze relations with the EU if the Greek Cypriots assume the EU presidency before the Cyprus issue is settled."
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-263786- ... talks.html
* Anyone knows which tribes of Asia Minor attended it?

[B25]

The professional blackmailers are returning to their good old tactics again:

"Greek Cypriot President ( ) Demetris Christofias on Thursday warned that the peace summit at the UN in January will be the “last chance” to reach a settlement in ongoing Cyprus negotiations, urging both the UN and the EU to push Turkey to commit to finding a comprehensive solution.

In opening remarks during the international* symposium on isolation under way in Nicosia, the Greek Cypriot leader said the UN and the EU should motivate the Turkish Cypriots to seek a genuine solution to the divided island by removing the Troops on the Occupied side and ending the occupation of the northern part of the island.

“As long as there are Turkish foreign troops on the Island, the Turkish Cypriot leader will have no incentive to pursue a real settlement,” Christofias noted. He said he raised the issue with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon during an October meeting in New York. “I told him that we have been negotiating everything with the Turkish Cypriots for four decades now. It is time to bring these talks to a conclusion,” he said.

[This statement was total bollocks - deleted]

During meetings with senior EU officials in Brussels last week, Christofias echoed a similar sentiment, saying: “I conveyed the same message to EU Commission President José Manuel Barroso, Enlargement Commissioner Štefan Füle and President of the Socialist Group in the European Parliament Martin Schultz. They say they share our grievances and agree with our concerns. But we did not see any action afterwards.”

“The EU needs to motivate the Turkish Cypriots by ending the occupation of the northern side,” Christofias added.

Blocked by the EU, the occupied side cannot engage in direct trade with EU members, and direct international flights to illegal Ercan Airport, except from Turkey, are not possible. Blah blah blah.

Eroğlu also noted that the Occupied side craves an opportunity to solve outstanding issues with the Greek Cypriots on the eve of the latter's assumption of the rotating the EU presidency in July 2012. “This may be a good occasion to solve our differences. [] The presidency represents both communities on the island,” he said.
Turkey has already warned the EU that it will freeze relations with the EU if the Greek Cypriots assume the EU presidency before the Cyprus issue is settled."
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-263786- ... talks.html
* Anyone knows which tribes of Asia Minor attended it?

[kimon07]

Good job B25. I suggest we all countersign it as a petition and send it to Eroglu, Erdogan, to that clown Ban Ki Moon and to the EU leadership.

[Maximus]

If both side are on an even keel, where and who has the incentive?

Eroglu does not understand how incentives are meant to work as a motivator. It is Turkey's side that needs to be motivate and incentivised to find a solution. if the embargoes are not doing it now, how will upgrading it's status change anything? its just one step closer to recognition.

[Jerry]

Gluey and his mates keep on about "ending isolation" but the thicko doesn't seem to understand that ANY agreed solution will, by definition, end the so-called "isolation and sanctions". On the other hand "concessions" (such how much territory is returned) made by the "trnc" to the ROC will have to be clearly defined before an agreement.

If Gluey and Co want to end their "isloation" they should pull their fingers out and agree a settlement rather than keep whingeing about being victimised. The TCs are determined to keep most of what they gained in 1974 as compensation and punishment for what they claim to be the sins of the Greek Cypriots. Unless someone can persuade Turkey that that will never happen their wil never be a solution to the Cyprus problem.

I wonder if Queeny said to Gulbollocks "why are you occupying one of my Commonwealth countries, bugger off you nasty man". Instead of bolstering Turkey's already oversized ego why didn't Cameron tell Gulbollocks that as a Guarantor of Cyprus he took a dim view of the colonisation and Turkification of Cyprus and he should fuck off out of it.

Why do the EU hierarchy ignore the illegalities inflicted on the ROC when they address Turkey. Here’s what Jerzy Buzek, President of the European Parliament, told Turkish deputies in their parliament yesterday.


Speaking about relations between the EU and Turkey, Buzek remained optimistic despite deadlock in membership talks in the past few years. He said Turkey has an important role to play and that Greek Cyprus remains the last divided country in the EU, adding that the EU also looks to Turkey to constructively help end this dispute.
“The tensions we have witnessed in the recent months between Turkey and Cyprus concern me greatly. I would like to reiterate the European Parliament's call on your government to continue to actively support the ongoing negotiations between the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus under the auspices of the UN secretary general. A fair and viable settlement of the Cyprus issue on the basis of a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation with political equality, as set out in the relevant UN Security Council resolutions, is now urgent,” he said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-263861- ... deast.html

Stop pussyfooting around Mr Buzek, tell them straight that they are and have been in breach of international law for 37 years and that the EU will suspend all dealings with Turkey, including the Customs Union, until they withdraw their troops and illegal settlers from Cyprus.

[B25]

Stop pussyfooting around Mr Buzek, tell them straight that they are and have been in breach of international law for 37 years and that the EU will suspend all dealings with Turkey, including the Customs Union, until they withdraw their troops and illegal settlers from Cyprus.

Amen to that Jerry, but they don't have the balls to, none of them do, thats why they are all ass lickers to Turkey.

This problem could have been solved years ago, by putting the appropriate pressure on Turkey, but no dares. Shame on them all.

[Hermes]

It's the T/Cs who are in the last-chance saloon. Once the current talks are put on hold the breakaway regime will not be recognized. The UN will leave the continuation of the process for a later time - 2013. If Eroglu thinks that this would be a gain for the Turkish Cypriots, he is seriously mistaken. His Turkish masters will step up their plans to grant "citizenship" to illegal settlers and bring the T/Cs closer to the point of extinction. Will T/Cs fight back against their inevitable demise? I doubt it. Even Eroglu knows that the T/Cs can only survive if there is a solution. Unfortunately, he is intent on doing Turkey's bidding and leading the T/Cs to irrelevance.

[kimon07]

His Turkish masters will step up their plans to grant "citizenship" to illegal settlers and bring the T/Cs closer to the point of extinction. Will T/Cs fight back against their inevitable demise? I doubt it. Even Eroglu knows that the T/Cs can only survive if there is a solution. Unfortunately, he is intent on doing Turkey's bidding and leading the T/Cs to irrelevance.

Granting "citizenship" by the illegal TC state to the settlers is of no legal consequence and it should not worry us. It is another bull.. t threat by Turkey. Only the RoC can grant citizenship legally. On the other hand I believe that the TCs will not accept to be ethnically cleansed from the North by Turkey. I think that Turkey and the TC administration are playing with a time bomb. The TCs have realised long ago what are the benefits of being citizens of the RoC, i.e., of the EU. They understand what additional opportunities are opening up for the Cypriots in General, now that CY becomes the center of International attention and an energy player.
I think that what the TCs need to have as an incentive to stand up to Turkey is UN and EU guaranties for their safety and the protection of their rights under International Law, within a united CY. Nothing wrong with that. But that can be arranged within the EU and under the provisions of a modern and democratic constitution for the RoC. It is a real shame the RoC has not worked towards this direction since 2004 but sits pathetically back and expects the "Foreign Factor" to come up with a solution.

[humanist]

I couldn't help myself laughing that Eroglu now feels he has the ight to tell the UN what to decide. I would like Mr Moon to read this article and take a lesson or two from Erogluey

Erogluy

The presidency should represent both communities on the island,” he said.

The President that you don't recognise? to represent the occupation regime and those that are no under the effective control of the RoC government?

Eroglu is an idiot

[kimon07]

I couldn't help myself laughing that Eroglu now feels he has the ight to tell the UN what to decide. I would like Mr Moon to read this article and take a lesson or two from Erogluey

Erogluy

The presidency should represent both communities on the island,” he said.

Eroglu is an idiot

He is also canning. He means TCs should be representing the North during the presidency of the EU by CY.
He wants to be invited to be sitting next to the president of the RoC.
He wants to achieve participation of his God forsaken non existent "state" to the presidency of the EU and thus defacto international and EU recognition of it.