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[Viewpoint]

Are you aware that in any civilised country you'd be arrested for these racist remarks? Have you seen the news with the lady on the bus shouting racist remarks at foreigners? This morning every radio station was debating this incident in a civilised fashion, thank god I live in a civilised country. Sotos, you can keep the Cyprus that you and the likes of you have created. Its all yours young man. All I ask is that the settlers multiply ten fold and never ever leave the north again to add to your misery.

Piratis, good luck with your plans of recapturing the north. I estimate the shift in "balance of power" to change in a millennium or two so not long to go my dear Greek Friend.

By the sounds of it, you really don't care seeing the TCs being wiped out of Cyprus, as long as it is not done by the GCs, but it's OK if it's done by the Turks. Do you know how ridiculous, bitter and racist you sound, and from someone who claims to be TC.

Then again, you were not born in Cyprus, were you, just like VP, therefore, you two do not have connection to Cyprus in the same way as most TCs do, so it's no wonder you are both in same frame of mind, that what ever the Turks does to the TCs it's OK, but not anyone else.

At last now he gets it. Off course we prefer the Turks to the GCs as we are Turkish in origin.

Most Americans are European origins, so does that mean then, that the Americans would prefer to be wiped out by the Europeans than the Chinese?

Some twisted logic you have!

While the GCs are not wiping out the TCs, the Turks are, which you don't seem to mind at all, in which case, if and when the time comes that the GC will take control over the whole island and the remaining TCs will be just a another minority or even kicked off the island for good, then that would be fine by you too, RIGHT!

After all, you do accept the TCs being wiped out. It's just a question of by whom.

No real TC will accept this, except foreign born so called TCs like you and Alan.

Gcs were not given the chance to wipe out the TCs as we all know 1974 happened, the bully got bullied so dont even go there.

You appear to have no problem with the GCs taking over the whole island in order to kick the TCs out, no in fact you encourage and support it. Ask any TCs you wish living in the TRNC whether they would rather be taken over by the Turks or the GCs i can guarantee 8 out of 10 would choose the Turks.

You are right on one matter if that happened and we were reduced too minority status in a GC state with no guarantees i would sell up and move to Turkey or the UK.

[Viewpoint]

At last now he gets it. Off course we prefer the Turks to the GCs as we are Turkish in origin.

OK Viewpoint, lets examine some facts:

1) You are a Turk, not unlike all other Turks Of Turkish Origin would be more correct.
2) The Turks have no problem to move from the lands they were born and raised to a different country. Like many other nationalities.
3) You support ethnic cleansing as a way to solve the Cyprus Problem. Not under a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.
4) You don't want to live among the native Cypriot population but you prefer being a minority among Turks. Arent TCs native to this island?
5) You want the protection of the Turkish Army Correct

Based on the facts above it seems that the best solution to the Cyprus problem would be to move all* TCs to Turkey, along with the Settlers. Of course you will not accept such thing, but if one day we have the power to force this solution, it will really not be that big of a deal for you but a solution which will be based on your own principles and which will essentially give to you almost everything that you want. Is that right?

* Those TCs who don't want to be a minority among Turks, do not support ethnic cleansing, and they instead want to be equal Cypriot citizens will of course stay.

So until or if ever you have that power we are not going anywhere in fact we will continue to grow in numbers.

[Hermes]

So until or if ever you have that power we are not going anywhere in fact we will continue to grow in numbers.

But all the evidence is that TCs are not growing in numbers. In fact, they are disappearing in numbers. The only group "growing in numbers" are the settlers who are being converted into "citizens" much to the dismay of TCs. But they cannot grow much further if there is no work for them. You are no doubt aware of the recent statistics on unemployment in the occupied areas. So I wouldn't peddle any nonsense about a population explosion in the north. It just isn't happening.

[Viewpoint]

So until or if ever you have that power we are not going anywhere in fact we will continue to grow in numbers.

But all the evidence is that TCs are not growing in numbers. In fact, they are disappearing in numbers. The only group "growing in numbers" are the settlers who are being converted into "citizens" much to the dismay of TCs. But they cannot grow much further if there is no work for them. You are no doubt aware of the recent statistics on unemployment in the occupied areas. So I wouldn't peddle any nonsense about a population explosion in the north. It just isn't happening.

You can bury your head in the sand all you wish and ignore the signs that the new generation TCs will continue to increase, in 10 years time you Gcs will be begging for agreed partition and we will be demanding unitary state one man one vote.

[Hermes]

So until or if ever you have that power we are not going anywhere in fact we will continue to grow in numbers.

But all the evidence is that TCs are not growing in numbers. In fact, they are disappearing in numbers. The only group "growing in numbers" are the settlers who are being converted into "citizens" much to the dismay of TCs. But they cannot grow much further if there is no work for them. You are no doubt aware of the recent statistics on unemployment in the occupied areas. So I wouldn't peddle any nonsense about a population explosion in the north. It just isn't happening.

You can bury your head in the sand all you wish and ignore the signs that the new generation TCs will continue to increase, in 10 years time you Gcs will be begging for agreed partition and we will be demanding unitary state one man one vote.

I think you are the one burying your head in the sand. There can be no increase in population numbers without any jobs. The "trnc" cannot even find work for the current number of settlers. What do you think all these new settlers are going to do? What prospects are there for young TCs? None. They are going to leave. Like they've been doing. The only thing you can be sure is growing TC discontent at Turkey's policies.

[Viewpoint]

Marriage, babies and people with jobs count and stay for years and years and years, go forth and have 10 babies.

[kimon07]

Marriage, babies and people with jobs count and stay for years and years and years, go forth and have 10 babies.

Yeah, and when they can not support themselves and their babies and they go hungry they eat each other and the babies?
Or rather they eat the TCs

[BirKibrisli]

What I support is: One united Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal citizens with a real democracy (one person one vote) without any racist discriminations, without segregation and without human rights violations.

What you support is: Legalizing the division of Cyprus and the ethnic cleansing, an undemocratic system that discriminates people based on their ethnicity and institutionalizing human rights violations with derogations from the EU acquis.

You have no respect to even our most basic human and democratic rights, let alone any empathy, compassion and understanding. You turned out to be as bad as people like AlanwithoneL, and that is the lowest of the low.

What you support is what Makarios,Grivas,Yorgadjis et al supported for all times...
Depriving the TCs of their hard won rights to live as equal citizens in their own country...
You do not,and never did,consider us,as legitimate Cypriots,people who for historical and geopolitical reasons have found themselves children of the island you consider to belong to Greece and the greek people...You have always tried (along with those I mentioned above) to assimilate,humiliate ,and degrade the TC community,and your struggle continues today,under the disguise of democracy and human rights arguments...You have proven yourself to be a Turkish Cypriot hater par exellance,a racist swine whose ultimate aim is to ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus...That is the lowest of the low,my friend,and you know it...

[BirKibrisli]

I rest my case!!!!

You are a piece of shit. Case Closed.

What worries me is that one day I might have to share my country with people like this.

Have no fear ,Alan...These people will never share Cyprus with us...The only way we will share our homeland with decent GCs is when these fascist swines die by the sword they have been living by...They are ONE mistake away from hara kiri,and I suspect we will live long enough to see them commit it...

[BirKibrisli]

Each and every post from you shows exactly how civilised you are. Keep up the good work Sotos, you are a great ambassador for your community.

Uncivilized shit like you do not deserve to be treated with civility. When you respect us and our rights on our island then you can expect respect from us. Until then you will get from us the treatment you deserve.

You are the last person to talk about civility or respect or human rights,Sotos...You and your kind in the past have ruined our beautiful homeland,exterminated a whole potential nation,and in due course opened the way for Cyprus to become a part of Greater Turkey...along with Makarios,Grivas,Yorgadjis,Papadopoulos et al you will be condemned by history as bitter and twisted nationalistic swines who committed high treason in their country...Close your eyes and think....where do you see Cyprus in 50 years? 100 years? 500 years??? That is all your work,my friend,you can be proud of it....