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[RichardB]

halfcountry tothe south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan arethe Asian countries that are allowed to take part inEuropean events.They have no land at all inEurope.

What constitutes “Europe”on an atlas isone thing and what constitutesEU culture is quite another! It’s no different tothe Organization ofthe Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa,the ME, or Asia providedthey are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain jointhe OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to jointhe Christian club? Turkey should stick tothe OIC where she belongs and forget aboutthe EU!

repeating again for a thick head like you... no.1 criteria to be eligible forEU membership: having land inEurope. halfcountry tothe south of TRNC has none. You can be inEU but you are not inEurope sorry. Looking at your skin color, you guys can be considered North African.

Not exactly true helsingfors although this was inthe origional criteria ,

thanks for supporting my view. You are out of the picture.

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

[supporttheunderdog]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe. Whether Turkey currently meets these criteria is a differnt matter. Personally I do not think Turkey does.

[Get Real!]

half country to the south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan are the Asian countries that are allowed to take part in European events. They have no land at all in Europe.

What constitutes “Europe” on an atlas is one thing and what constitutes EU culture is quite another!

It’s no different to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa, the ME, or Asia provided they are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain join the OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to join the Christian club?

Turkey should stick to the OIC where she belongs and forget about the EU!

repeating again for a thick head like you... no. 1 criteria to be eligible for EU membership: having land in Europe. half country to the south of TRNC has none. You can be in EU but you are not in Europe sorry. Looking at your skin color, you guys can be considered North African.

So where’s your credible link that stipulates what you claim?

[RichardB]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe. Whether Turkey currently meets these criteria is a differnt matter. Personally I do not think Turkey does.

Thank you STUD

This is the point I was trying to get over to heslingfors but he/she decided in their wisdom to only comment regarding the first line

Good afternoon GR

[supporttheunderdog]

[quote="RichardB

Thank you STUD

This is the point I was trying to get over to heslingfors but he/she decided in their wisdom to only comment regarding the first line

Good afternoon GR[/quote]

In their wisdom? I suspect Helsignfors has an anti-Cypriot / pro Turkish Agenda

[helsingfors]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe..

of course the "new criteria" were introduced in 2004 to pave the way to half country south of TRNC. Admitting an entity without land in Europe would have been scandalous.

[kurupetos]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe..

of course the "new criteria" were introduced in 2004 to pave the way to half country south of TRNC. Admitting an entity without land in Europe would have been scandalous.

What's your problem Turk? Cyprus has been an EU member since 2004.
It's only the EU that decides which countries are eligible for membership and not some gypsy goat-shagging Turk, like you.

[RichardB]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe..

of course the "new criteria" were introduced in 2004 to pave the way to half country south of TRNC. Admitting an entity without land in Europe would have been scandalous.

So, we agree that Cyprus met the criteria for entry into the EU

As far as I am aware the countries wishing to accede to EU membership do not have to meet expended criteria ok, only the criteria that is required at the time of their ascension.

Would you like to answer the question as to whether you think that Turkey meets present day criteia for admission? ..I dont think the question should be too difficult for one as conversant as you in matters regarding the EU.

[helsingfors]

Oh dear another selective ''quote grabber''

In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU:

1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities.

2.The economic criterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union.

3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.

We can all use selective quoting but it only serves to make the person selecting look a fool

Would you care to comment regarding Turkeys EU acsension in respect of the later criteria above

These are the Criteria as laid down by the EU, which were introduced in 2004: nothing about land in Europe..

of course the "new criteria" were introduced in 2004 to pave the way to half country south of TRNC. Admitting an entity without land in Europe would have been scandalous.

So, we agree that Cyprus met the criteria for entry into the EU

As far as I am aware the countries wishing to accede to EU membership do not have to meet expended criteria ok, only the criteria that is required at the time of their ascension.

Would you like to answer the question as to whether you think that Turkey meets present day criteia for admission? ..I dont think the question should be too difficult for one as conversant as you in matters regarding the EU.

You are still not addressing the fact: half country south of TRNC has no land in Europe. You can buy several Greek islands and help miserable Greece though.

[kimon07]

half country to the south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan are the Asian countries that are allowed to take part in European events. They have no land at all in Europe.

That is right. Because "half country" is a COUNTRY while "TRNC" is not. And because, what you call "half country" and "Asian country" meaning Cyprus, is one of the locations from where the European (Hellenic[*] and Hellenistic) culture emerged. And through which Christianity (the religion of the EU) past to Europe. Therefore Cyprus does not need to "have land in Europe"
because its own land IS EUROPE.
Besides, unlike "TRNC" ( ) Israel and Kazakistan ARE recognized countries. Furthermore, the Nation of Israel was present in the development of the Mediderranean culture many centuries before the Mongols appeared in the far east corners of Asia Minor around 1070 ad.

[*]The Iliad of Homer tells about the 10th year of the Trojan war. The previous nine, including the abduction of Helen, the preparations, the near sacrifice of Iphigenia etc, were storied in the work of a Cypriot and are known (to Europeans) as the "Cyprian Epee" (ΚΥΠΡΙΑ ΕΠΗ). Unfortunately they were lost and only fragments of them are found in the work of other Greek authors and poets such as Euripides, Aeschylus etc.
You should also remember that according to the Hellenic (European) pantheon, Aphrodite was born in Cyprus.

Now, for your homework and proper European education, I will ask you to get on to the Internet and learn were the following names derive from:
1. Europe.
2. Paphos.
3. Kinyras.
4. Salamis (of Cyrpus) and, why the hell not
5. Kimon.
Tomorrow I will come back to examine you on above topics (from the Greek word "topos") and mark you. Do not neglect your studies in the Hellenic (European) culture. If you follow my tutorials you may be able to become a European in much less than 1.000 years from now. Besides, any man who does not belong to the European culture is only HALF a man and a barbarian according to the European scholars and he is certainly not eligible to be an EU citizen. And, surely, you do not wish to remain a "half man" and a barbarian for ever. Do you now, half man.