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[humanist]

I thought that he was saying a week or so ago he doesn't believe in the Union and that he doesn't respect the fact that a half member state will lead the Presidency in 2012?

[Hermes]

I thought that he was saying a week or so ago he doesn't believe in the Union and that he doesn't respect the fact that a half member state will lead the Presidency in 2012?

Maybe he wants to be miserable...

[Pippin]

So not only are Turkey a nation of plunderers, they are also a nation that condones paedophilia. We defintely don't want such a nation as part of Europe

[kimon07]

Gul forgot to mention the highly democratic practices and standards which Turkey will introduce to the EU as well. I Wonder why!

Euro Parliament head slams arrest of scribes in Turkey

Friday, November 25, 2011
ANKARA - Hürriyet Daily News

The head of European Parliament strongly criticized the “unusually high number of journalists imprisoned and arrested in Turkey,” rejecting the reasoning behind the arrests that the “[journalists] were active against the government.”( )
“The argument that journalists are active against the government is unacceptable. It is typical for journalists to write and question the government. That should not be surprising,” European Parliament President Jerzy Buzek told reporters in a press conference Nov. 25 after his discussions in Ankara.
Buzek said he and the EU body he represented were concerned with the current state of affairs in Turkey regarding freedom of the press and freedom of expression.
“I understand that your authorities say it is an issue of antiterrorism ( ) and not an attempt to stifle freedom of expression issue ( ). But we disagree,” Buzek said.
He stressed the need for amendments in Turkish anti-terror laws and media laws. Buzek also suggested training judges and prosecutors to handle these cases properly. He said these problems could be resolved with a new constitution.
Asked if there were similar cases in EU countries in which “journalists conspire against the government,” Buzek said there could be journalists being investigated under those pretenses, which happens from time to time.
“But the unusually high number of journalists that are arrested and imprisoned in Turkey is very alarming,” he said.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-25

[kimon07]

Some more Turkish culture and democracy to be introduced to the EU and enrich its culture.

Controversy over Dersim killings apology widening

".....Republican People’s Party (CHP) and the government over the military’s operation against Alevis in Dersim in the 1930s. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan apologized for the massacres on Nov. 23, but the act only enflamed the debate."

"Questioning the sincerity of the government’s apology, Sabahat Akkiraz pointed to the killing of 111 people, mostly Alevis, by state-backed right-wing militants in the southern province of Kahramanmaraş in 1978 and the death of 35 intellectuals in the 1993 Sivas Massacre at the hands of an Islamist mob during an Alevi cultural festival.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-25

Comment. In the case of the 1993 incident, the 35 victims were burned alive in the hotel where they were holding a conference.

[helsingfors]

half country to the south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan are the Asian countries that are allowed to take part in European events. They have no land at all in Europe.

[Get Real!]

half country to the south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan are the Asian countries that are allowed to take part in European events. They have no land at all in Europe.

What constitutes “Europe” on an atlas is one thing and what constitutes EU culture is quite another!

It’s no different to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa, the ME, or Asia provided they are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain join the OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to join the Christian club?

Turkey should stick to the OIC where she belongs and forget about the EU!

[helsingfors]

half country to the south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan are the Asian countries that are allowed to take part in European events. They have no land at all in Europe.

What constitutes “Europe” on an atlas is one thing and what constitutes EU culture is quite another!

It’s no different to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa, the ME, or Asia provided they are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain join the OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to join the Christian club?

Turkey should stick to the OIC where she belongs and forget about the EU!

repeating again for a thick head like you... no. 1 criteria to be eligible for EU membership: having land in Europe. half country to the south of TRNC has none. You can be in EU but you are not in Europe sorry. Looking at your skin color, you guys can be considered North African.

[RichardB]

halfcountry tothe south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan arethe Asian countries that are allowed to take part inEuropean events.They have no land at all inEurope.

What constitutes “Europe”on an atlas isone thing and what constitutesEU culture is quite another! It’s no different tothe Organization ofthe Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa,the ME, or Asia providedthey are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain jointhe OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to jointhe Christian club? Turkey should stick tothe OIC where she belongs and forget aboutthe EU!

repeating again for a thick head like you... no.1 criteria to be eligible forEU membership: having land inEurope. halfcountry tothe south of TRNC has none. You can be inEU but you are not inEurope sorry. Looking at your skin color, you guys can be considered North African.

Not exactly true helsingfors although this was inthe origional criteria ,there was actually no definition as to what constitutes aEuropeancountry,The main criteria as perThe treatyonEuropean union (The Copenhagen Crireria) are as follows

What requirements must countries meet to become members ofthe EU?

There is no checklist with a precise indication ofthe conditions acountry must meet in order to be admitted tothe EU.

According to Article 49 ofthe Treaty on European Union, any European state which respectsthe principleson whichthe EU is based may apply for membership.There is no definition of what is meant by ‘European state’ but, when Morocco applied to jointhe EU in1987,the application was rejected in an opinion ofthe Commission onthe grounds that Morocco was not aEuropeancountry.The enlargement ofthe EU on 1 May 2004 promptedthe formulation ofthe ‘Copenhagen criteria’ concept, which is used to definethe conditions which applicant states must meet in order to become members ofthe EU. Fromthe conclusions ofthe Presidency, Copenhagen 21-22 June1993 –the Copenhagen criteriaThe European Council today agreed thatthe associated countries in Central and EasternEurope that so desire shall become members ofthe European Union. Accession will take place as soon as an associatedcountry is able to assumethe obligations of membership by satisfyingthe economic andpolitical conditions required. Membership requires thatthe candidatecountry has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities,the existence of a functioning market economy as well asthe capacity to cope with competitive pressure and market forces withinthe Union. Membership presupposesthe candidate’s ability to takeonthe obligations of membership including adherence tothe aims ofpolitical, economic and monetary union.The Union’s capacity to absorb new members, while maintainingthe momentum ofEuropean integration, is also an important consideration inthe general interest of boththe Union andthe candidate countries.The European Council will continue to follow closely progress in each associatedcountry towards fulfillingthe conditions of accession tothe Union and drawthe appropriate conclusions.The Copenhagen criteria are a series ofpolitical and economic conditions laid down bythe Heads of State and Government ofthe Member States atthe European Council meeting in Copenhagen in1993. Ultimately, however, it isthe Council which decidesonthe accession of acountry by unanimous decision after consultation withthe Commission and afterthe assent ofthe European Parliament, which means thatthe European Parliament must approvethe Council’s decision. In outlinethe Copenhagen criteria can be divided into three conditions, which must be met before a decision is takenon whether acountry can become a member ofthe EU: 1.The political criterion:The country must have stable institutions guaranteeing democracy,the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities. 2.The economiccriterion:The country must have a functioning market economy and must be capable of withstandingthe pressure of competition and market forces inthe European Union. 3.The criterion presupposingthe ability to incorporatethe entire body of laws and regulations ofthe EU –the ‘acquis communautaire’:The country must be able to assume allthe obligations flowing from membership, includingthe aim ofpolitical, economic and monetary union What comes closest to a catalogue of concrete requirements which must be met by applicant countries isthe third criterion, according to whichthe countries must be in a position to implement allthe EU’s laws and regulations.


http://www.eu-oplysningen.dk/euo_en/spsv/all/24/


I think it is fair to say that Trunkey has not yet metthe highlighted criteria

[helsingfors]

halfcountry tothe south of TRNC, Israel and Kazakhistan arethe Asian countries that are allowed to take part inEuropean events.They have no land at all inEurope.

What constitutes “Europe”on an atlas isone thing and what constitutesEU culture is quite another! It’s no different tothe Organization ofthe Islamic Conference (OIC) whereby members can be located in Africa,the ME, or Asia providedthey are (at least) Muslim. Can Belgium or Britain jointhe OIC? Of course not, so why should Muslim countries be able to jointhe Christian club? Turkey should stick tothe OIC where she belongs and forget aboutthe EU!

repeating again for a thick head like you... no.1 criteria to be eligible forEU membership: having land inEurope. halfcountry tothe south of TRNC has none. You can be inEU but you are not inEurope sorry. Looking at your skin color, you guys can be considered North African.

Not exactly true helsingfors although this was inthe origional criteria ,

thanks for supporting my view. You are out of the picture.