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[kurupetos]

GR! is upset because he realised he's delusional. We're Hellenes and this fact will never change.

[supporttheunderdog]

Just like Hitler was elected by the majority of Germans and the majority of Germans were Nazis back then,

Not quite correct

Hitler and the Nazis nver had more than 37% of the popular vote and at most had 230 seats out of 608 in the Reichstag, in the period up to 1933. Once Hitler became Chancellor in 1933 after some devious political chicanery no more elections took place.

See a site like http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0403a.asp for details

You are right supporttheunderdog. So it seems not even the Germans in their majority supported the Nazis, and yet the Turks in their overwhelming majority support the Nazi fascist practices of their state for decades, and not even one of the major political parties supports anything different. Not only they refuse to recognize their crimes of the past (like Germans did) but they continue with more and more crimes as we speak.

On a side note, Hitler at least got 37% of the votes. In Cyprus the TCs want to be able to elect a president with less than 10% of the votes (of which most could come from Turkish Settlers). In Turkey with less than 10% you don't even get a single seat in the parliament, and in Cyprus they want that same percentage to elect a president!

I am not going to take any issue with you about either Turkey or the Kibrilisi and their voting demands. That is because I agree the the Tur*s are in denial about the sins in their history and the demands are unacceptable.

[Nikitas]

No Bananiot, not all Turks are the same. But as long as that flag flies on Pendadaktylos, Turkey as a nation does not change. You know what they say about leopards and their spots.

As recently as July, in the midts of peace talks, Erdo, in a speech replete with racism stated clearly that there will be no return of territory, no GCs allowed to go to the north for any reason other than worship, no change regarding settlers. He deigned to refer to us as "they" avoiding any nouns. No not all Turks are the same, only the ones that run things and tell the rest how to act.

So spare us the lecture.

[Tyroneez]

Nobody is saying that t/c did not suffer in times of conflict ..
Conflict instigated i'n large measure by Turkeys 50 year efforts to destroy the republic of Cyprus , Firstly by partition then by total occupation ...
And the greek cypriots have no choice but to resisted at all costs ..
Because the illegal occupation of the north , is only the first step i'n the total take over of the country ...
( Bananiot )
You would have yo be blind / if you cannot see , what is really going on ..
And condeming injustices committed against t/c civilians ...
Is one thing ...
But supporting the Turkish position on the Cyprus problem , is quite another

[Bananiot]

Haven't the faintest of what you are on about Nikitas. My comment was directed at Piratis with whom I debated this issue on numerous occasions. The flag on Pendadaktylos is still there to remind us of some bitter truths and the fallacy of those that convinced the majority of people not to go for solution in 2003-2004 because "the EU would secure for us a European solution". Since you like to quote Erdogan, perhaps you can tell us about his statements at the time and also remind us of how many refugees have returned, how much land has returned to the RoC and how many settlers have gone back to Turkey.

[alexISS]

Αχριστες βαλκανο τουρκο-πουτανες!

Ουτε για τα σκατα τις κυπρου εν αξιζετε!

First learn how to spell the language of your ancestors and then use it to curse, μπερδεμένε απάτριδε παπαρολόγε

[alexISS]

To be honest I feel for GR. The Greek crisis was his big chance to attract new "supporters" of his neo-Cypriot ideology.

2 years on and all he has is himself and the other usual suspect, only difference is they now have 10 accounts each

[alexISS]

The nazis' goal was the prosperity of their country. If that is your goal too, you are a nazi. Much worse than an EOKABitas, no?

I'm sorry, I meant you are *technically* a nazi

That is a bull-shit arguement and you know it. one can want wealth for one's country without being a Nazi. nazism was primarily a philosophy of the alleged racial supremy of the "Aryans", which involved the demonisation of others like jews.

You can tell who the Nazi's are here as they think they are being clever by labelling their opponents as Jews.

You obviously fail to detect irony and sarcasm, you are definitely not a Jew

[Get Real!]

To be honest I feel for GR. The Greek crisis was his big chance to attract new "supporters" of his neo-Cypriot ideology.

2 years on and all he has is himself and the other usual suspect, only difference is they now have 10 accounts each

Greek boudana, do you know where I learned to write like that? In the army when I was made an ebilohias and I had to fill out the daily EKAL and some other paperwork, within the space of a month!

Not bad for a month’s crash course!

As for my followers, let's just say they're a lot more than yours and those of Piratis put together!

[Piratis]

Haven't the faintest of what you are on about Nikitas. My comment was directed at Piratis with whom I debated this issue on numerous occasions. The flag on Pendadaktylos is still there to remind us of some bitter truths and the fallacy of those that convinced the majority of people not to go for solution in 2003-2004 because "the EU would secure for us a European solution". Since you like to quote Erdogan, perhaps you can tell us about his statements at the time and also remind us of how many refugees have returned, how much land has returned to the RoC and how many settlers have gone back to Turkey.

Bananiot, you continue to repeat the same nonsense. I for one never ever said that Annan plan should be rejected because "the EU would secure for us a European solution". And even if this position was expressed by some this is not the reason that Cypriots rejected the Annan plan. If that was the case then 7 years after entering the EU and without a "European Solution" in sight we would have regretted for rejecting the Annan plan.

However we didn't regret rejecting the Annan plan one bit, and that is because we didn't reject the Annan plan because we expected something better to come soon, but because it is worst than the status quo and worst than a "standard" kind of partition. Annan plan is the worst possible outcome for Cyprus short of Turkey invading and occupying the whole of Cyprus.

The Annan plan was a partition plan that would turn the de facto partition into a de jure partition, with part of Cyprus becoming officially and with our signature Turkish. But it is even worst than a "standard" kind of partition because apart from officially making the north part of Cyprus Turkish, it would also give the power to Turkey to control the whole of Cyprus.

I am very glad that the Cypriot people were not fooled to accept the Annan plan. I would be even happier if we could have Papadopoulos as a president for a second term since with him Cyprus would be in a much better position right now in all aspects.

If we are tired for fighting for our rights and the liberation of the north part of our island (I am not) and we want to simply close the Cyprus Problem and get over with it (I don't) then we might as well agree into a standard kind of partition where the same amount of land and refugees would return (I hope you didn't actually believe that many GCs would go live under Turkish rule) so we can have those few benefits that Annan plan would offer without the massive additional problems it would create.