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[Cap]

Its easy when you're in a neutral country.

The invasion was justified?
36 years later, thousands of concessions later, striving to keep on the straight and narrow in accordance with international law.
Don't think the RoC intentionally set a foot wrong all these years.

Yet we got the terror state of so called 'Tu**ey' walking over the human rights of the Kurds, making zero concessions, hypocritical, arrogant, aggressive and throwing its weight around and breaking hundreds of UN resolutions like its a national past time.

So there's no forgiveness and no reconciliation for the RoC's wrong doings?
The time will come when the shoe will be on the other foot, and the terror state will receive the same treatment, its citizens paying for their forefathers mistakes for decades.

[Get Real!]

Basically we agree Alex, what I am saying is that we provided Turkey with the pretext to invade. Remember Turkey was (is) a guarantor for the RoC. Those who provided the pretext appear now to be the super patriots who struggle (sic) to liberate Cyprus. This I cannot stomach.

I don't think Piratis is an EOKABitas Bananiot. Labeling *most* of your compatriots as fascists is as helpful as them accusing you of being a traitor

Anyone who supports the “Greekification” of Cyprus is technically an EOKAvidas because that’s what EOKAB’s goal was.
They undermined the sovereignty and unique identity of Cyprus and Cypriots to aid Greek expansionism.

You may be as baffled as I am as to why anyone would want such a shitty entity as Greece to expand but hey! Some mothers do have them…

[alexISS]

Basically we agree Alex, what I am saying is that we provided Turkey with the pretext to invade. Remember Turkey was (is) a guarantor for the RoC. Those who provided the pretext appear now to be the super patriots who struggle (sic) to liberate Cyprus. This I cannot stomach.

I don't think Piratis is an EOKABitas Bananiot. Labeling *most* of your compatriots as fascists is as helpful as them accusing you of being a traitor

Anyone who supports the “Greekification” of Cyprus is technically an EOKAvidas because that’s what EOKAB’s goal was.
They undermined the sovereignty and unique identity of Cyprus and Cypriots to aid Greek expansionism.

You may be as baffled as I am as to why anyone would want such a shitty entity as Greece to expand but hey! Some mothers do have them…

The nazis' goal was the prosperity of their country. If that is your goal too, you are a nazi. Much worse than an EOKABitas, no?

I'm sorry, I meant you are *technically* a nazi

[Get Real!]

In my university we had many Turks. I didn't make any judgments about any of them until I talked to them. When I did talk to them I asked them to tell me what their position on the Cyprus problem is. Those that had a position that was against our human and democratic rights and the sovereignty of our country could not obviously be my friends. Only somebody with a slave mentality can have as friends people who do not respect his basic human and democratic rights.

Did you also question Greek students to see if they supported Greece's violation of Cypriot human rights by overthrowing the democratically elected government of Cyprus, murdering our people, and imposing Greek fascism on the island (which paved the way for the Turkish response) before befriending them?

[Get Real!]

The nazis' goal was the prosperity of their country. If that is your goal too, you are a nazi. Much worse than an EOKABitas, no?

I'm sorry, I meant you are *technically* a nazi

You may want to try again...

[alexISS]

Fair enough but subjective views do not really interest me. I' d much rather you tell me where you disagree and perhaps you can show me where I am wrong. I have been known to change my opinion quite readily if needed, you know. Similarly, I cannot pretend I know your stance on the Cyprus issue but I am willing to listen. I presume you were referring on the Cyprob.

Actually I was thinking about the Rafaelides quote you seem to be quite fond of

[Piratis]

In my university we had many Turks. I didn't make any judgments about any of them until I talked to them. When I did talk to them I asked them to tell me what their position on the Cyprus problem is. Those that had a position that was against our human and democratic rights and the sovereignty of our country could not obviously be my friends. Only somebody with a slave mentality can have as friends people who do not respect his basic human and democratic rights.

Did you also question Greek students to see if they supported Greece's violation of Cypriot human rights by overthrowing the democratically elected government of Cyprus, murdering our people, and imposing Greek fascism on the island (which paved the way for the Turkish response) before befriending them?

The Junta in Greece came to power by force, not by the votes and the support of the Greek people. The Greek people gave the answer to what you are asking not just with words, but with actions, by jailing the junta generals for life. On the other hand Ecevit was elected with the votes of the majority of Turks, and not only he was not jailed for what he did to Cyprus, but he is treated as a hero while all Turkish goverments (elected with the votes of the majority of Turks) are acting just like him. I am sure even you can see the vast difference between the two.

[alexISS]

The nazis' goal was the prosperity of their country. If that is your goal too, you are a nazi. Much worse than an EOKABitas, no?

I'm sorry, I meant you are *technically* a nazi

You may want to try again...

no, you may want to try again

[alexISS]

The Junta in Greece came to power by force, not by the votes and the support of the Greek people. The Greek people gave the answer to what you are asking not just with words, but with actions, by jailing the junta generals for life.

Moreover, the Junta's puppet in Cyprus, Sampson, was elected by the Cypriot people. In other words, the coup was more "legalized" in Cyprus than in Greece.

[Get Real!]

In my university we had many Turks. I didn't make any judgments about any of them until I talked to them. When I did talk to them I asked them to tell me what their position on the Cyprus problem is. Those that had a position that was against our human and democratic rights and the sovereignty of our country could not obviously be my friends. Only somebody with a slave mentality can have as friends people who do not respect his basic human and democratic rights.

Did you also question Greek students to see if they supported Greece's violation of Cypriot human rights by overthrowing the democratically elected government of Cyprus, murdering our people, and imposing Greek fascism on the island (which paved the way for the Turkish response) before befriending them?

The Junta in Greece came to power by force, not by the votes and the support of the Greek people. The Greek people gave the answer to what you are asking not just with words, but with actions, by jailing the junta generals for life. On the other hand Ecevit was elected with the votes of the majority of Turks, and not only he was not jailed for what he did to Cyprus, but he is treated as a hero while all Turkish goverments (elected with the votes of the majority of Turks) are acting just like him. I am sure even you can see the vast difference between the two.

Are you implying that just because Greece was being run by a military junta there was no need to check the Greek students to see if they supported the criminal actions of Greece against Cyprus?

They automatically got a green light based on assumption?