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[Get Real!]

I’d love to take a boat or two and put Hermes, Oracle, Piratis, Kurupet, Alexis, and a few other of these Spartan wannabes aboard to safely land on an island in the pacific so they may put this “hellenization process” into effect while we sit back and laugh!

Once they land and start their hellenic funny talk they’re gonna get hang by the balls and skinned for supper!

Seriously, can you land on someone else’s island and modify their culture while you remain unscathed? And especially on such a prosperous and influential kingdom like Cyprus which was trading with the great pharaohs of Egypt?

I’d love to watch these so called “Greeks” demonstrate how this is done on national television! It would be so fucking hilarious!

[Get Real!]

Here are a few other “izations” to contemplate…

The Germanization of Poland

The Hollandization of S.Africa

The Turkification of northern Cyprus

The Portugalisation of Latin America

The Americanization of Iraq


And many more examples. Now, what do they all have in common?

[Hermes]

Seriously, can you land on someone else’s island and modify their culture while you remain unscathed? And especially on such a prosperous and influential kingdom like Cyprus which was trading with the great pharaohs of Egypt?

Precisely. That is how Cyprus came to influence early Hellenism in interaction with the Aegean Greeks who they lived with side-by-side - as the archeological evidence suggests. Thus Cypriots became Greek and Greeks became Cypriot. Giving rise to a unique identity of the Greek Cypriots and the spread of Cypriot influence into Greece and vice-versa.

So GR, I hope you can take pride in the role of Cyprus in the evolution of Hellenic thought. And you can lay to rest your "autochthonous" thesis of a non-Greek heritage of "Cypriotness"- a dubious British colonial narrative which you took up rather too readily for my liking.

[Get Real!]

Seriously, can you land on someone else’s island and modify their culture while you remain unscathed? And especially on such a prosperous and influential kingdom like Cyprus which was trading with the great pharaohs of Egypt?

Precisely. That is how Cyprus came to influence early Hellenism in interaction with the Aegean Greeks who they lived with side-by-side - as the archeological evidence suggests. Thus Cypriots became Greek and Greeks became Cypriot. Giving rise to a unique identity of the Greek Cypriots and the spread of Cypriot influence into Greece and vice-versa.

There is no such thing as “side by side” living! Where the fuck do you get these gay ideas from?

Since when has anyone on this planet lived “side by side” with no ill feelings, racism, and then conflict? Which planet are you from anyway?

[Get Real!]

Other harmonious “side by side” cohabitations in the world to consider…


We are Palestinians living “side by side” with Jews!

We are Poles living “side by side” with the Russians!

We are GCs living “side by side” with the TCs!

We are Turks living “side by side” with Greeks!

We are French living “side by side” with Brits!

We are the Hutu tribe in Rwanda living “side by side” with the Tutsies!

[Get Real!]

Can ANYONE point me to another “ization” that happened in the history of mankind in a “side by side” manner?

Surely there MUST be another example out there!

[Hermes]

There is no such thing as “side by side” living! Where the fuck do you get these gay ideas from?

Since when has anyone on this planet lived “side by side” with no ill feelings, racism, and then conflict? Which planet are you from anyway?

That is what the archeological evidence points to in Cyprus, GR. There was no "Hellenisation" narrative of Myceanean Greeks invading, occupying and eradicating the Cypriot locals. You need to get rid of your Germanic 19th Century myths of superior, highly civilised races who would land in remote places like Cyprus conquer them and and establish colonies. Why do you still cling to this "Hellenising" conquerors myth of Cyprus? Why won't you give it up? I'd have thought you'd be the first to do so. Instead you sound disappointed that Cyprus wasn't conquered by Greeks! Very peculiar.

Instead all the evidence points to the native Cypriots and Aegeans co-existing in settlements throughout ancient Cyprus. There is no evidence of a conquest of the island by Mycenaeans on their way back from Troy! But that Cypriot and Aegean culture evolved in a dynamic way feeding into early Hellenic-Cypriot culture which evolved over time.

Thus Cyprus feeds into Hellenic civilisation and vice-versa. It really makes more sense (and fits the evidence) than your German-derived notion of a conquest of Cyprus by mythical Achaean warriors back from Troy! You really need to catch up with the present evidence and not rely on the Greek Gymnasiums so much. You're a sucker for this Hellenising conquest stuff...

[Get Real!]

Thus Cyprus feeds into Hellenic civilisation and vice-versa. It really makes more sense (and fits the evidence)...

What can I say… you are out of touch with reality and immersed in psycho-sexual gay delusions of “hellenic” amalgamations!

[Get Real!]

The real world doesn’t work like that dude and especially in the old days… the real world was a violent dog-eat-dog daily battle! You either conquered or were conquered… end of story.

The moment the first gay Greek you describe, landed on the Cypriot shores and started the funny talk about amalgamations and such, they hanged him by the willie and made a fine Kipper out of him!

[Hermes]

The real world doesn’t work like that dude and especially in the old days… the real world was a violent dog-eat-dog daily battle! You either conquered or were conquered… end of story. The moment the first gay Greek you describe, landed on the Cypriot shores and started the funny talk about amalgamations and such, they hanged him by the willie and made a fine Kipper out of him!

I'm sorry GR. But you really need to let go of your 19th Century Germanic myths of a superior race conquering the native Cypriots while on their way back from Troy! I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you. I know it's what you've been brought up to believe. But there you go. I've done it. It's a lovely story. It's probably in your faded school textbook. And it's hard to let go of. But it's a German story, mate. The truth is better though.

The native Cypriots were there at the foundations of Greek culture. They weren't wiped out by the Aegean arrivals. It's just as likely that the Aegean newcomers didn't come as subjugators - nor in large numbers - but they existed alongside the native Cypriots who didn't feel threatened by them. Furthermore the Aegeans felt at home in Cyprus while the native population didn't fear them as outsiders or aliens.

Trading activity between Cyprus and the Aegean became widespread. Our Aegean neighbours traded with us, more arrived, built more settlements, lived next to us, interacted with us and we all evolved over time into one big Cyprio-Hellenic family. The archaeology supports it. But I don't expect you to let go of your Greek gymnasium myths just yet! It takes time. So I'll be patient...