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[Sotos]

SMALL IMAGINATIONS: GREEK CYPRIOT CHILDREN'S CONSTRUCTIONS OF "THE TURK"

We don't need any imagination to see the Turkish flag on Pentadaktylos and how they Turks fucked up our island.

[B25]

Therefore, if a country in Europe is characterised by shortcomings, such as nepotism, corruption, pursuing irrational policies etc, then you have a country which lacks in European mentality, as defined above.

Banana, you are very quick to throw more put downs at us, it was not that long ago when the whole of the EU Commission was going to be fired for the very shortcomings you stated above. Perhaps they also are not european enough for your Turkish masters.

After all, this thread is another 'Have ago at the Greeks' by none other than that piece of crap Halililili, you know your coffee morning partner.

All these attributes, are prevailant in all countries in and out of Europe, it's just that they hide it better than we do.

Exactly what is the point of this stupid thread if not to get at the Greeks again.

[Hermes]

There is seemingly clear evidence at Ancient Enkomi of violent destruction of traditional Cyrpriot style buildings and rebuilding in Mycenaen Style, suggesting the takeover there was anything but peaceful.

Archaeologists are not certain whether the newcomers at Enkomi were also to be held responsible for the destruction of the settlements or not. The Mycenaeans’ involvement in the subsequent rebuilding, repairing and general reorganizing of the towns is undisputed. It doesn't prove that the Mycenaean Greeks arrived as a conquering army who subjugated the locals.

[Hermes]

Now, instead of repeating the well known Greek dogma over and over, can you please try using your head and in your own words try to patch some of the many holes in your theory? I’ve given you the first two problems to overcome so when you’re done and we’re satisfied with your explanations we can proceed to the next two. Thanks.

You and supporttheunderdog are the ones wedded to the idea of the Hellenisation narrative that Cyprus was invaded by Greek heroes on their way back from the Trojan war who destroyed an indigenous population! I am arguing for a continuity of Cypriot culture: that the two groups, Aegeans and native Cypriots, co-existed in settlements as the archaeological evidence shows. And that their cultures became intertwined through trade and cultural exchange.

In order for your autochthonous thesis to work you have to insist on a destruction of the Cypriot population by the arriving Greeks who imposed their culture as occupiers on the natives. There is no evidence of this.

Your thesis works against a Cypriot contribution to Hellenic thought and paints the native Cypriots as weak, incapable and passive subjects of Greek aggression. It undermines the crucial role of Cyprus in the development of early Greek thinking and plays into the British colonial narrative about Cyprus which pushed the "autochthonous" narrative as official policy to undermine the Greek identity of the Cypriot population during the rise of Greek Cypriot nationalism.

In other words, you not only promote a Germanic thesis of the superior Greeks arriving to conquer a weak native population, you then compound it by promoting the British thesis of an "autochtonous" continuity. Instead of accepting the Cypriot archaeological evidence of an exchange between native and Aegean cultures which evolved over time. You buy straight into foreign theses which seeks to denigrate your own culture as passive and weak. I'm surprised a man of your supposed intelligence could fall so easily into the trap set up for you by the island's former colonial rulers...

[Panicos UK]

I post all the omissions from your Greek gymnasium education so stick around, fasten your seatbelt, and come ride with me…

Get Real, you seem obsessed with Greek gymnasiums. Have you had enough of Turkish baths?

[Panicos UK]

The context of this thread is so weak it's almost laughable.

[Mikiko]

Greek gymnasiums are the product of a banana republic !

[kurupetos]

The context of this thread is so weak it's almost laughable.

Innit matey?

[Hermes]

Greece has ALWAYS been the black sheep of Europe that has never contributed anything to the EU but was a constant recipient so quit finding pitiful excuses!

Seriously GR, since the demise of Viewpoint I know there is vacancy for Forum Clown. You are pushing very hard for the role so you must seriously want it. Personally I don't trust someone who wants a position so badly. There are others more worthy who don't have to try as hard as you do...

[Hermes]

Exactly what is the point of this stupid thread if not to get at the Greeks again.

Stupid threads are clown-bait. Step forward GR, halil and bananiot. All vying for the vacancy of Forum Clown.

It's apparent to anyone (Clowns excepted) that Greece was just the first domino in line. In the middle of this economic chaos, the issue is not whether Greece is European, but just what were the European banks doing over-lending to weak borrowers? Instead of the anti-Greek idiots on this forum realising that it''s not just Greece which is being destroyed but Ireland as well. Portugal and Spain are in limbo. Italy is about to go into IMF receivership. Cyprus is facing a bailout unless it makes deep cuts to public spending. While France is slashing and burning public services to avoid a downgrade of its credit rating.

As this process unfolds the Germans reap the reward and lecture their newly indebted customers to cut wages, sell off assets, and give up their pensions, schools, healthcare. All to preserve the demise of insolvent German, Dutch and French banks! If this crisis is the result of Greek character then what does it say about the rest of Europe?