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[kurupetos]

What a laughable thread. BTW, I'm African Greek Cypriot.

[Get Real!]

What a laughable thread. BTW, I'm African Greek Cypriot.

Not as laughable as the state Greece and everything "Hellenic” finds itself in!

[bill cobbett]

Again.... Gawd, this thread is sooooo rubbish.. so don't mind me adding a little more...

Three pages of rubbish where no one has asked the simplest question of the 3rd rate writer of this 3rd rate article, someone who is soooo determined to make his point that he doesn't stop for a mo to define "European" to readers; what he/she thinks a "European" is, what it means when we refer to people as "European".

So a few questions... What do we mean by "European"? The member states of the EU? The states of the Council of Europe (which includes such places as Turkey and Russia) ... and what about places like Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or even the USA, are these "European" places...? Is it a matter of religion? Values?

But why are you stuck on the "European" bit of the article? Plenty else in there was 100% spot on.

FFS!!!!!! .... it's in the blooming, freeking Headline! ... in the Title!!!! .... Are Greeks Really European , so it must carry some weight surely!!!!

... and the author mixes several definitions of the word when he draws from other sources to paint his picture in the readers mind... have a look, you'll find "Eurozone", European Union, throws in Western Catholicism, Western Europe, European Economic Community etc etc. The man is all over the place.... but he never gives us his own view of what the label "European" means to him.

[Get Real!]

Again.... Gawd, this thread is sooooo rubbish.. so don't mind me adding a little more...

Three pages of rubbish where no one has asked the simplest question of the 3rd rate writer of this 3rd rate article, someone who is soooo determined to make his point that he doesn't stop for a mo to define "European" to readers; what he/she thinks a "European" is, what it means when we refer to people as "European".

So a few questions... What do we mean by "European"? The member states of the EU? The states of the Council of Europe (which includes such places as Turkey and Russia) ... and what about places like Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or even the USA, are these "European" places...? Is it a matter of religion? Values?

But why are you stuck on the "European" bit of the article? Plenty else in there was 100% spot on.

FFS!!!!!! .... it's in the blooming, freeking Headline! ... in the Title!!!! .... Are Greeks Really European , so it must carry some weight surely!!!!

... and the author mixes several definitions of the word when he draws from other sources to paint his picture in the readers mind... have a look, you'll find "Eurozone", European Union, throws in Western Catholicism, Western Europe, European Economic Community etc etc. The man is all over the place.... but he never gives us his own view of what the label "European" means to him.

It’s clearly saying that what constitutes “Greece” today, the people in other words, are the remnants of Ottoman ashes and he is 100% correct! That’s why he is metaphorically asking “are they European”? He obviously isn’t referring to the geographic location of Greece’s territory but her people!

When the Greek nation was formed in the early 1800s there were only about a million people so they pulled in 3.5 million more Albanians, Bulgarians, Gypsies, Ottomans, Slavs, etc, to form a “nation”!

[GreekIslandGirl]

And what of Cyprus once Greece is gone?

You’re one of the foolish fervent supporters of the notion that Greece and Cyprus are mutually exclusive, by negating the sovereignty of Cyprus and reducing Cypriots to just another group of ”Hellenes”!

So it therefore follows that DEATH TO GREECE can only mean…

LIFE FOR CYPRUS!

I think it's yourself you are referring to, you mixed up, confused kid!

I want both to survive as I believe they are synergistic. The whole (Hellenic world) is greater than the sum of its parts.

[Get Real!]

And what of Cyprus once Greece is gone?

You’re one of the foolish fervent supporters of the notion that Greece and Cyprus are mutually exclusive, by negating the sovereignty of Cyprus and reducing Cypriots to just another group of ”Hellenes”!

So it therefore follows that DEATH TO GREECE can only mean…

LIFE FOR CYPRUS!

I think it's yourself you are referring to, you mixed up, confused kid!

I want both to survive as I believe they are synergistic. The whole (Hellenic world) is greater than the sum of its parts.

Cyprus cannot survive as a mere shadow of some mythology from afar, so the complete destruction of these mythology propagators emanating from Greece is absolutely vital for her future.

[GreekIslandGirl]

And what of Cyprus once Greece is gone?

You’re one of the foolish fervent supporters of the notion that Greece and Cyprus are mutually exclusive, by negating the sovereignty of Cyprus and reducing Cypriots to just another group of ”Hellenes”!

So it therefore follows that DEATH TO GREECE can only mean…

LIFE FOR CYPRUS!

I think it's yourself you are referring to, you mixed up, confused kid!

I want both to survive as I believe they are synergistic. The whole (Hellenic world) is greater than the sum of its parts.

Cyprus cannot survive as a mere shadow of some mythology from afar, so the complete destruction of these mythology propagators emanating from Greece is absolutely vital for her future.

Somebody's winding you up. You're the only one who believes Cyprus is second rate in the Hellenic fold. Cyprus isolated entirely from Greece will go the same way as Asia Minor.

[Get Real!]

Nobody is winding me up Oracle, it’s very clear to see even for a 12 year old, that our problems here on Cyprus are actually twofold:

1. Turkey’s PHYSICAL invasion/occupation of Cyprus.

2. Greece’s MENTAL invasion/occupation of Cypriotism.

The latter of which is the hardest to deal with.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What you call 'mental invasion' others see as ancestry and move on to more pressing matters. Stop fighting two fronts or you'll weaken what you love the most. You should choose one. Either you fight Turkey off or fight Greece off. Which one is really more important to you, huh?

[Hermes]

Cyprus cannot survive as a mere shadow of some mythology from afar, so the complete destruction of these mythology propagators emanating from Greece is absolutely vital for her future.

Your ancestors would be turning in their graves to hear you describing their culture and heritage as a "mere shadow of Hellenism." What an insult to believe that Cypriotness is some kind of diluted alien influence when it is the expression of a unique identity formed in the teeth of struggle. Cyprus is a unique expression of Hellenism. It doesn't have to look anywhere for its justification. It only has to look within.