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[kimon07]

A third gas corridor: prospects for the East Med
October 20, 2012 | Filed under: Featured News,Geopolitics
Harris Samaras, Chairman & Group CEO of Pytheas, talks to Leigh Elston, Editor & Senior Reporter of Interfax, about the possibility, and importance, of the Eastern Mediterranean hydrocarbons to Europe and more (14 September 2012).
Extracts from the interview of Mr. Samaras withInterfax:
Dimitris Manolis, the Interconnector Turkey-Greece-Italy’s (ITGI’s) director of international activities, this week raised the possibility of bringing East Mediterranean gas to the European market via the ITGI pipeline as early as 2018. Harris Samaras, the chairman and group chief executive of Pytheas, an international investment banking organisation, spoke to Interfax about the benefits of, and technical and commercial challenges to, building ‘the East Med’ pipeline.
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/ ... -east-med/

[bill cobbett]

The other common sense consideration in this is that this eastern med pipeline will follow the reserves of gas...

A pipeline connecting the proven reserves of Israel and Egypt and now the CY reserves and heading off from CY towards European Consumers via the highly probable prospects to the south of Crete, to those in the Ionian to the west of Greece and those again highly probable reserves in the neighbouring Italian EEZ.

The threats made against the Italian ENI company by Turkey in the past day or two will be a wake-up call to the EU that gas destined for consumption in the EU should go nowhere near Turkish control.

[CBBB]

The threats made against the Italian ENI company by Turkey in the past day or two will be a wake-up call to the EU that gas destined for consumption in the EU should go nowhere near Turkish control.

Agreed, Mr Erdogan can go **** himself!

[kimon07]

The threats made against the Italian ENI company by Turkey in the past day or two will be a wake-up call to the EU that gas destined for consumption in the EU should go nowhere near Turkish control.

Agreed, Mr Erdogan can go **** himself!

And take Mr. Matthew Bryza with him!

Cypriot gas ‘cheap but not easy’
ISTANBUL

Turkey can build a pipeline to the Cyprus island, says Matthew Bryza, AP photo
Transferring Greek Cypriot gas to Europe via Turkey makes sense economically yet striking a deal remains inconceivable in light of Turkey’s strained relations with Greek Cyprus and Israel, according to a former U.S. diplomat.

It is economically ridiculous to run a pipeline from Cyprus to Greece via the Greek island of Crete, said former U.S. envoy to Baku and director of the International Centre for Defense Studies in Tallinn, Matthew Bryza, while discussing the newly discovered gas fields in the Mediterranean off the coast of Cyprus.

Transferring gas from Greek Cyprus to Turkey is much more economically advantageous, he said. “It’ll be a shame if politics gets in the way,” he said at a roundtable organized by Turkish Policy Quarterly. “But politics will have to lead.” He added that Turkey’s relations with Israel also make it impossible to strike a deal.

Turkey can build a pipeline to Turkish Cyprus and extend it to Greek Cyprus, Bryza said, adding that over time, gas produced in the eastern Mediterranean could be sent to Turkey.

However, to convince Greek Cyprus to put its economic future in the hands of Turkey is to ask too much of Greek Cyprus. A grand bargain, in which Turkey could lift its claim on Cyprus, is necessary, according to Bryza, but the deadlock between Turkey and Israel makes these types of projections difficult to pursue.
November/01/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/cyprio ... sCatID=348

Well, at least he admits that channeling Cyprus gas through Turkey would mean nothing less than putting the economic future of Cyprus in the hands of Turkey. That IS a progress if it reflects the official American view on the issue.

[kimon07]

House of Commons
Tuesday 30 October 2012

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Oil and Gas (Cyprus)

8. Jim Sheridan (Paisley and Renfrewshire North) (Lab): What assessment he has made of the political consequences in the middle east of the exploration for oil and gas off the coast of Cyprus. [125216]

The Minister for Europe (Mr David Lidington): The discovery of oil and gas resources has the potential to bring greater prosperity and energy security to the region. We hope that all countries in the region will work to overcome their differences to develop those resources in a mutually beneficial way.

Jim Sheridan: I thank the Minister for that response. He will be aware that Cyprus has moved on from olive oil to crude oil, and there are genuine concerns among all Cypriot people that the illegal occupying forces in the north may wish to assist ( ) the exploration of that oil against the best wishes of the Cypriot people. If that were to happen, what options would be open to the UK Government, given that we are a governing power ( ) and we do have a significant military presence on the island?

Mr Lidington: We have repeatedly stated publicly our acceptance that the Republic of Cyprus has sovereign rights to exploit its mineral reserves within its exclusive economic zone. We think that the prospect of the greater prosperity that would flow from the successful exploitation of hydrocarbon resources in the eastern Mediterranean is one of many reasons why it is in the interests of Cyprus—all communities in Cyprus—of Turkey and of Greece to reach a settlement to the maritime disputes in that region and a final settlement to the Cyprus question, too.

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con): Given the stalling of the political search for a solution to the Cyprus problem, does not this exciting prospect of the exploration of hydrocarbon reserves highlight both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power in ensuring ( ) that these are resources for the whole island of Cyprus, and that reunification of the island is an economic necessity for Cyprus and the greater region?

Mr Lidington: It is certainly important that these resources are seen as being developed for the benefit of all communities in Cyprus, not just for one section of the population there. Any settlement that endures in Cyprus has to have the wholehearted consent of both the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities. That is why, although we want to support the work towards a settlement, it is right that that process towards—we hope—a final settlement has to be Cypriot-led.
He has finaly come to my words Let us draft a new constitution NOW!

http://thechronicleherald.ca/world/1587 ... ure-in-50s

[B25]

...... both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power ......

Some needs to remind that rt honorable twat, that in 1974, the UK failed in its duty as a 'guarantor Power'. Suddenly the smell of methane has woken the MFs up.
Gamoto keraton tous poushto englezous.

[kurupetos]

...... both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power ......

Some needs to remind that rt honorable twat, that in 1974, the UK failed in its duty as a 'guarantor Power'. Suddenly the smell of methane has woken the MFs up.
Gamoto keraton tous poushto englezous.

[Lordo]

...... both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power ......

Some needs to remind that rt honorable twat, that in 1974, the UK failed in its duty as a 'guarantor Power'. Suddenly the smell of methane has woken the MFs up.
Gamoto keraton tous poushto englezous.

whats the matter my friend have you run out of mates again/

[kurupetos]

...... both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power ......

Some needs to remind that rt honorable twat, that in 1974, the UK failed in its duty as a 'guarantor Power'. Suddenly the smell of methane has woken the MFs up.
Gamoto keraton tous poushto englezous.

whats the matter my friend have you run out of mates again/

Yes, I lost my friend YFred.

[bill cobbett]

House of Commons
Tuesday 30 October 2012

……………………….

Oil and Gas (Cyprus)

8. Jim Sheridan (Paisley and Renfrewshire North) (Lab): What assessment he has made of the political consequences in the middle east of the exploration for oil and gas off the coast of Cyprus. [125216]

The Minister for Europe (Mr David Lidington): The discovery of oil and gas resources has the potential to bring greater prosperity and energy security to the region. We hope that all countries in the region will work to overcome their differences to develop those resources in a mutually beneficial way.

Jim Sheridan: I thank the Minister for that response. He will be aware that Cyprus has moved on from olive oil to crude oil, and there are genuine concerns among all Cypriot people that the illegal occupying forces in the north may wish to assist ( ) the exploration of that oil against the best wishes of the Cypriot people. If that were to happen, what options would be open to the UK Government, given that we are a governing power ( ) and we do have a significant military presence on the island?

Mr Lidington: We have repeatedly stated publicly our acceptance that the Republic of Cyprus has sovereign rights to exploit its mineral reserves within its exclusive economic zone. We think that the prospect of the greater prosperity that would flow from the successful exploitation of hydrocarbon resources in the eastern Mediterranean is one of many reasons why it is in the interests of Cyprus—all communities in Cyprus—of Turkey and of Greece to reach a settlement to the maritime disputes in that region and a final settlement to the Cyprus question, too.

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con): Given the stalling of the political search for a solution to the Cyprus problem, does not this exciting prospect of the exploration of hydrocarbon reserves highlight both that Britain has an important role as a guarantor power in ensuring ( ) that these are resources for the whole island of Cyprus, and that reunification of the island is an economic necessity for Cyprus and the greater region?

Mr Lidington: It is certainly important that these resources are seen as being developed for the benefit of all communities in Cyprus, not just for one section of the population there. Any settlement that endures in Cyprus has to have the wholehearted consent of both the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities. That is why, although we want to support the work towards a settlement, it is right that that process towards—we hope—a final settlement has to be Cypriot-led.
He has finaly come to my words Let us draft a new constitution NOW!

http://thechronicleherald.ca/world/1587 ... ure-in-50s

Boys and girls, for a reasonably wise assembly (with the exception of ordo of course), people aren't being wise...

As with any politician, particularly the GB Europe Minister Lidington, look very, very carefully at what he is saying and then look to see if he is saying what you would like hime to be saying... cos he ain't. ... and then look to see what he has missed out.

A clue... go and find out what the position of the GB Foreign Office is on the matter of the EEZ of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic... and look for the phrase "non-negotiable" and references to UNCLOS in these statements on the Falklands, then compare it with what Lidington has said above.