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by **bill cobbett** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:10 am

Whether we like it or not, there is a chance that early in the New Year the international perspectives of a settlement will go to an "international conference" which is generally taken to mean one that is limited to the UnHoly Trinity of GB, Greece and Turkey, plus the Republic plus a Spokesperson for the Illegal Settlers.

Now given the the UN Security Council has, over the years, produced a number of Resolutions, any thoughts on an insistence that rather than the usual three suspects, that the international conference should be limited to the four Permanent Members of the Security Council (excluding the fifth member, the former Colonial Power GB) together with a representation from the European Union?

After all CY is a member state of the Union and Europe will wish to see that any settlement does have the benefit of expert opinion on European Values and Principles and Freedoms and the Security Council may wish to see that all those very nice Resolutions are covered in a settlement.

by **Get Real!** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:55 am

Not newsworthy Bill... :lol:

by **bill cobbett** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:Not newsworthy Bill...

In simple terms there are 2 approaches to news...

Try and influence and maybe even make the news or...

Shove a bum in the air whilst reading the news waiting to be buggered by GB, Gr and Tr again.

by **Get Real!** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:53 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Not newsworthy Bill...

In simple terms there are 2 approaches to news...

Try and influence and maybe even make the news or...

Shove a bum in the air whilst reading the news waiting to be buggered by GB, Gr and Tr again.

The only time you should be concerned is if it involves the UNSC. I wouldn’t even bother with the UNGA!

by **bill cobbett** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:57 am

Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Not newsworthy Bill...

In simple terms there are 2 approaches to news...

Try and influence and maybe even make the news or...

Shove a bum in the air whilst reading the news waiting to be buggered by GB, Gr and Tr again.

The only time you should be concerned is if it involves the UNSC. I wouldn’t even bother with the UNGA!

Refs above are to the SC and not to GA !!!!

by **Get Real!** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:00 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Not newsworthy Bill...

In simple terms there are 2 approaches to news...

Try and influence and maybe even make the news or...

Shove a bum in the air whilst reading the news waiting to be buggered by GB, Gr and Tr again.

The only time you should be concerned is if it involves the UNSC. I wouldn’t even bother with the UNGA!

Refs above are to the SC and not to GA !!!!

Bill, this better be good! Start with a link...

by **bill cobbett** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:06 am

Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Not newsworthy Bill...

In simple terms there are 2 approaches to news...

Try and influence and maybe even make the news or...

Shove a bum in the air whilst reading the news waiting to be buggered by GB, Gr and Tr again.

The only time you should be concerned is if it involves the UNSC. I wouldn’t even bother with the UNGA!

Refs above are to the SC and not to GA !!!!

Bill, this better be good! Start with a link...

There is no link reh.

Do however, like all of us, have something much, much more credible, the benefit of hindsight, we've been there and done it with Anann with the Shitty Trio... we should know what to expect if they have a hand in things...

We need the SC to oversee the implementation of its various UN resolutions and the EU to bring on board European Values and Principles and the Fundamental Freedoms of the Union at any "international conference".

by **Get Real!** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:18 am

Oh c’mon Bill!

On the global scale Turkey is too feeble to influence anything against Cyprus without the RoC’s consent. That has been proven many times over in the past.

If anything it’s the RoC that controls Turkey these days…and that’s something that’s gonna get much worse for Turkey once natural Cypriot resources start surfacing and being distributed.

I’d hate to be Turkey… she’s like the big fat guy at a school yard with only one leg trying to steal people’s sandwiches! :lol:

by **kimon07** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:57 am

Unthinkable to get into any international (or trinational) conference. What we should do is:
1. Send Christofias home.
2. File a new motion to the Sec. Council demanding the implementation of its existing resolutions about Cyprus i.e., force Turkey to withdraw from the Island (or even better nuc it).
3. Withdraw from the negotiations with the TCs until the resolutions of the Sec. Council are implemented, i.e., until the Turkish occupation of the North is ended etc.
4. Prepare our own new constitution.
5. Start fresh negotiations with the TCs (after Turkey withdraws from the Island or is nuced), based on our draft of a new constitution.
Period.

by **Hermes** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:25 pm

Spokesman: Eroglu should not be in a hurry for Cyprus conference

GOVERNMENT Spokesman Stephanos Stephanou has urged Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu not to be in a hurry for the convening of a four-party or five-party international conference on the Cyprus problem but to proceed to the negotiating table in the same "constructive way" as President Christofias.

Stephanou recalled that an international conference on the Cyprus problem will be convened for the settlement of the international aspects of the problem, once the two parties are very close to an agreement on the internal aspects of the problem.

Asked if UN Secretary General Ban Ki moon told the two leaders during their meeting last week in New York, in his presence, that the meeting in January in New York will be the last time that he will offer his good offices mission, Stephanou replied negatively, noting that the UN Secretary General’s good offices are provided on the basis of UN Security Council resolutions and the SG reports to the Security Council.

Invited to comment on a statement by Eroglu that the issue of territory will be discussed once a four-party or five-party conference is convened, Stephanou said that “the international conference will be convened for the settlement of the international aspects of the Cyprus problem, as the SG himself has said, and the international conference will convene once we are close to an agreement on issues regarding internal aspects of the Cyprus problem.”

“This is what the UNS SG had told them during their meeting in Geneva in July, and what he told them now in New York,” he added.

He noted that Eroglu should not be in a hurry ''for the convening of a four-party or five-party conference, as he calls it, and proceed to the negotiating table with the same constructive way as President of the Republic, consistent to the agreed basis for a settlement which is that bizonal, bicommunal federation, guided by the UN resolutions, with a view to reach to an agreed settlement of the Cyprus problem.”

http://famagusta-gazette.com/spokesman- ... 444-69.htm