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by **CBBB** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:40 pm

Friday, November 4, 2011
GÖKHAN KURTARAN - [email protected]
ISTANBUL - Hürriyet Daily News

Tension between Turkey and Israel continues on as Israel and Greek Cyprus develop bonds on gas drilling. A Turkish minister challenged Israel’s Peres, saying Turkey could not be left out of the plans in the region

Israel would step over the line by threatening Turkey in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, a Turkish minister said Nov. 4 while evaluating the Israeli president’s visit to Greek Cyprus on Nov. 3 to discuss natural gas exploration in the maritime region.

“Israel would not dare threaten Turkey,” said Binali Yıldırım, Turkey’s minister of transport, maritime and communications told the Daily News at the Ericsson Academy opening ceremony in Istanbul.

“Turkey’s road map on this matter is already certain, “said Yıldırım, adding that there would be no project formed and run in the Eastern Mediterranean “without Turkey’s consent.”

Yıldırım said Turkey was the security insurance for the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus and “the approval of Turkey has to be obtained” for oil and gas drilling in the region.

“We are not going to threaten anybody and we’re not going to be afraid of threats. What we have to do really is to bring it to the international level and behave like responsible countries, too,” Israeli President Shimon Peres said, the Associated Press reported Oct.4.

A tripartite summit among U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, Eroğlu and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias took place in New York on Oct. 30 and 31. The next summit will take place in January 2012.

Following a meeting at Çırağan Palace in Istanbul with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, Turkish Cypriot President Derviş Eroğlu said northern Cyprus continued its pursuit of a solution at the Cyprus talks held in New York.

“We want negotiations, ongoing for 43 years, to be concluded and a lasting agreement to come out,” Eroğlu said at a press conference after the Istanbul meeting.

Eroğlu said they were continuing with good will and made constructive proposals at every meeting. “We will keep seeking solutions for Cyprus. I hope talks will be concluded at the next summit in New York,” he said.

Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoğlu said peace on the island would be a part of the peace in the East Mediterranean region. He said they hoped the Greek Cypriot administration would approach the negotiation process with this perspective, stating that peace, tranquility and stability would be restored.

Davutoğlu said the U.N. secretary-general would call the two parties to talks again in January and this was a pleasing development. He added that it would be the “end game.”

“If the term ‘end game’ is used, we are happy with this result as we have insisted on this since the Geneva talks,” Eroğlu said “We propose that negotiations will not last forever and there should be an end to this in the Greentree summit.”

Additional AA report from Istanbul was used in this story.
Friday, November 4, 2011

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by **Kikapu** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:34 am

a)

A Turkish minister challenged Israel’s Peres, saying Turkey could not be left out of the plans in the region

Oops, too late, since it has already happened!

b)

“Israel would not dare threaten Turkey,” said Binali Yıldırım, Turkey’s minister of transport, maritime and communications told the Daily News

Israel has no need to threaten Turkey. All they are telling Turkey is, "we are not threatened by you and that we are able to defend ourselves should you start anything".

c)

“Turkey’s road map on this matter is already certain, “said Yıldırım, adding that there would be no project formed and run in the Eastern Mediterranean “without Turkey’s consent.”

This comment belongs in the joke section. Back to (a)!

d)

Yıldırım said Turkey was the security insurance for the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus and “the approval of Turkey has to be obtained” for oil and gas drilling in the region.

This comment belongs in the comic books. Back to (a) & (c).

e)

“If the term ‘end game’ is used, we are happy with this result as we have insisted on this since the Geneva talks,” Eroğlu said “We propose that negotiations will not last forever and there should be an end to this in the Greentree summit.”

The term "end game" does not mean the "trnc" will become a recognised state if the talks fail, so I'll advice Eroglu to keep negotiating for a good solution for all Cypriots rather than try and torpedo the talks. The term "end game" has many interpretations and it's not always the one Eroglu and Turkey wants it to be. Just remember 2004, that's all.

by **Get Real!** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:30 am

Kikapu wrote:The term "end game" does not mean the "trnc" will become a recognised state if the talks fail, so I'll advice Eroglu to keep negotiating for a good solution for all Cypriots rather than try and torpedo the talks. The term "end game" has many interpretations and it's not always the one Eroglu and Turkey wants it to be. Just remember 2004, that's all.

“End game” simply means that they’ve run out of ideas! :lol:

by **wyoming cowboy** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:14 am

They should realize tht the only idea left for them is to withdraw from Cyprus, and save themselves from acting like fools

by **souroul** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:10 pm

you've got to be kidding me.... surely this is a mis-interpretation right?

by **supporttheunderdog** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:25 pm

Binali Yıldırım ? I have two words for you - FUCK OFF!

by **Kikapu** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:The term "end game" does not mean the "trnc" will become a recognised state if the talks fail, so I'll advice Eroglu to keep negotiating for a good solution for all Cypriots rather than try and torpedo the talks. The term "end game" has many interpretations and it's not always the one Eroglu and Turkey wants it to be. Just remember 2004, that's all.

“End game” simply means that they’ve run out of ideas!

The "end game" may mean that the UN is no longer going to take part in future negotiations if a settlement is not found based on BBF and that the status quo will just continue. From then on, the ONLY settlement talks the RoC will be interested in, will be a Unitary state with modified 1960 agreements, since I do not believe the RoC is obliged to return to the original 1960 agreements since BBF is and will be the ONLY agreed proposal on the table by all sides for a settlement. The TCs and Turkey have painted themselves into a corner with no way out, other than the status quo, which is not very desirable for them at all. The RoC can continue with the status quo at it's present form as well as push for BBF based on EU Principles and retain the Unitary state option open with a modifies 1960 agreements for it to be in line with the EU Principles also. Should the UN pull it's peace troops out of Cyprus, then the EU will have no choice but to send in their own "police force" in to replace them, much to Turkey's objections. The "end game" may only be for the UN, but not for the Cyprus and most definitely not for the TCs or Turkey, since the status quo will just continue, which is not what they want.

by **Nikitas** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:19 am

Look at this phrase of yildirim:

"Yıldırım said Turkey was the security insurance for the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus and “the approval of Turkey has to be obtained” for oil and gas drilling in the region."

Unless the translation is bad, this dingbat is saying that Turkey has the final say on oil drilling anywhere in the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus. Talk about megalomaniac, hey!

I can see the Saudis running to the Turks for approval of their next oil well! You gotta to admit though, the man has comedy potential.

by **humanist** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:51 am

it still doesn't the change the fact though Nikitas that even though comedians they are stuffing up our future and that of the gullible TC's who still believe that Turkey is acting in their support

by **Kikapu** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:26 pm

Nikitas wrote:Look at this phrase of yildirim:

"Yıldırım said Turkey was the security insurance for the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus and “the approval of Turkey has to be obtained” for oil and gas drilling in the region."

Unless the translation is bad, this dingbat is saying that Turkey has the final say on oil drilling anywhere in the Middle East, the Balkans and the Caucasus. Talk about megalomaniac, hey!

I can see the Saudis running to the Turks for approval of their next oil well! You gotta to admit though, the man has comedy potential.

Actually, where is MR-from-NG to remind Turkey and the "trnc", that possession (Oil & Gas) is 9/10th of the law. :wink: